--- Len Philpot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : > On Mon,
Aug 26, 2002 at 05:28:28PM +0200, szonyi
> calin wrote:
> > 
> > Welcome to *nix
>  
> It was hard to write, therefore it should be hard to
> learn, right? ;-)
> This kind of attitude worked for a long time when
> there weren't
> alternatives (at least perceived if not in reality).
> However, in today's
> market, as much as we (I?) sometimes dislike it, the
> customer deserves
> some consideration. Even in free software it helps.
> 

Sorry. I didn't know that people with *nix experience
didn't discovered fvwm yet.

> 
> > I think the man page should remain as it is.
> > The man page format is standard.
> 
> I wish KDE / Gnome and others would include (more)
> man pages instead of
> all the (*?%$ HTML documentation.
> 

They try to emulate windoze (with some success :-) )

> 
> > Man page _is_ a reference. Man page _is not_ a
> > tutorial. Will never be.
> 
> I agree - However some explantory text/refernce
> material might be in
> order here and there, whether in the man page or as
> a separate document.
> 

I think a separate document will be better.
As someone wrote on this list, the man page 
is too big allready.

> 
> > If you are impatient and newbie in the same time
> > the chances of screwing things up are big, so
> > my advice is to start with a configuration file
> > that _works_ and modify it to suit your needs,
> 
> Well, since I started this thread let me say that I
> am not new to
> computers, nor am I totally new to *nix -- I use and
> administer Solaris
> every day at work in a decent sized production
> environment and have done
> so for almost 4 years. I'm certainly not a guru (I
> learn every day), but
> not a Unix newbie either... an fvwm newbie,
> certainly, though!
> 

Sorry again. :-) 
Many new users which come from windows don't read 
documentation so I thought you are one of those.

My apologies, but i'm became sick of seeing windoze
 lusers who can't configure their pc saying that
*nix is hard to learn, when the only thing they 
have read in their life was the label from the OK
button in a dialog box.

> 
> > I think somebody wrote a tutorial for fvwm.
> > Use it.
> 
> The only one I've found is a bit thin. What's there
> is useful enough,
> but it's not much (as the author freely admits).
> 

I found the examples distributed with the source a 
good start. Maybe I'll try to write an extensive
 tutorial. I'm not an expert but with some help I
think I can do it. 
The main problem are the differences between 
versions of fvwm 

Calin


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