I have used eclipse to teach Java for the past 5 years now, and sometimes the overhead, particularly for the little programs (usually < 100 lines) we do at this level, has always struck me as a bit high. If I had to code Java, I probably would use it, but for Python, I have to admit to being an emacs guy most of the time.
For my Java class I really want to spend as little time as possible on the IDE, and like you say, eclipse does take some time to learn. Not that Netbeans is brilliant, but it is somewhat cleaner than eclipse. I've also looked at teaching IDE's like DrJava and BlueJ, but both of those strike me as a bit too pared down. It's a tricky choice, and all I'm certain of is that I haven't been happy with my pick since maybe Turbo C 3.0.... ;) Cheers, Vern James Scott Jr wrote: > NetBeans vs Eclipse ? > > For some cases it maybe possible/practical to pick a different IDE for > the given task at hand. However, there is nothing like investing > sufficient time in one IDE to maximize your personal productivity. > > If you take a little time to learn the tools, I'll bet is can be > customized to meet your exact needs(Emacs/Vi/... anyone). > > I choose eclipse because it contains a plugin structure that is VERY > well supported and actively developed. This means I am offered every > language I plan to use, and the editor itself has great keyboard and GUI > features. Yes, its and effort to learn; but it is very useful out of > the box for a newbie. > > Consider non-obvious options, like DUAL 20inch WIDE SCREENS, to maximize > the tools screen space and effect. Sometimes a real good desk chair > also helps. > > Anyway, I think eclipse is worth the effort. To use it as a part of > class on programming requires the same amount of effort and any other > modern IDE; use what you know. > > Ok, so it looks like I'm the sole RED HAT Fedora user, and maybe the > eclipse lone ranger... > > James, > > > > > On Fri, 2008-08-15 at 13:03 -0400, Vern Ceder wrote: >> Hi Bud, >> >> Yeah, I've been looking at using the NetBeans IDE for my Java >> programming classes rather than Eclipse, since it's a bit less cluttered. >> >> So far, I like what I see. >> >> Now, if it only did Python/Jython as well... >> >> Cheers, >> Vern >> >> Bud Manz wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Has anyone tried out the NetBeans IDE (www.netbeans.org)? I downloaded >>> it the other day and have been playing with their 6.5 Beta; it features >>> an awesome PHP editor! There are other languages that are supported >>> such as, C/C++, Swing, Ruby, and Java. And, best of all, it is free! ;-) >>> >>> I just wanted to make you guys aware of it. >>> >>> Have a great weekend! >>> Bud >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Fwlug mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://fortwaynelug.org/mailman/listinfo/fwlug_fortwaynelug.org >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fwlug mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://fortwaynelug.org/mailman/listinfo/fwlug_fortwaynelug.org -- This time for sure! -Bullwinkle J. Moose ----------------------------- Vern Ceder, Director of Technology Canterbury School, 3210 Smith Road, Ft Wayne, IN 46804 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 260-436-0746; FAX: 260-436-5137 _______________________________________________ Fwlug mailing list [email protected] http://fortwaynelug.org/mailman/listinfo/fwlug_fortwaynelug.org
