So it looks like both Joe and Travis have offered to take over...

What say you all? Any resolution?

And Joe has suggested just migrating the addresses. This would be pretty
easy, I can extract that data very quickly.

So please, let me know what you all want to do... the clock is ticking on
that  hosting.

Cheers,
Vern

On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Joseph Brennan <[email protected]>wrote:

> For some reason I thought this had been resolved.
>
> I am also in the process of moving my domains from GoDaddy (because of
> their support for SOPA) and Moniker (b/c I've been hearing bad things about
> their customer service since they were bought out, although I personally
> haven't had an issue yet).
>
> I would be happy to take over the domain name registration and hosting. I
> have an unlimited hosting plan, and the domain name expense is small. On
> the other hand, I have not been attending the meetings of late, so some
> might consider me an absentee member like Vern -- although this semester, I
> shouldn't have class conflicts and plan to attend at least some of the Ivy
> meetings, since I live right down the street.
>
> As for the list archives, perhaps it would be best to save only the old
> addresses and delete the content. Someone here might be in dire economic
> straits someday and be forced to apply for a job at GoDaddy, Frontier or
> <gasp> Microsoft and might not want their mailing list comments to be
> easily retrievable, despite having been warned "This is a public list and
> all posts are archived publicly. Please keep this in mind before posting."
>
> On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 1:00 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>   1. Re: Web hosting and domain name ownership... sort of an
>>      ultimatum... (Travis Paul)
>>   2. Re: Web hosting and domain name ownership... sort of an
>>      ultimatum... (Vern Ceder)
>>   3. Re: Web hosting and domain name ownership... sort of an
>>      ultimatum... (Clifford Garwood II)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 09:06:46 -0500
>> From: Travis Paul <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected], Fort Wayne Linux Users Group
>>        <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [fwlug] Web hosting and domain name ownership... sort of
>>        an      ultimatum...
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>> I would be willing to take over registration and hosting for 2012 unless
>> someone objects or unless someone else would prefer to take it over. I
>> don't attend meetings but I do follow and utilize the mailing list. The
>> only thing I'm unsure about setting up is the mailing list itself so I
>> might have some questions but I'm sure I will figure it out.
>>
>> Vern, if you hear from the other members that this is ok we can exchange
>> the needed information. I would prefer to just transfer the domains over
>> to
>> my gandi.net account but I do have a GoDaddy account if the domain needs
>> to
>> live there for awhile.
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Vern Ceder <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi everyone,
>> >
>> > Happy Holidays to All! I hope you all are having a great holiday.
>> >
>> > For my part, I've been enjoying Lake County, and have hooked up with a
>> > newly created LUG hosted at the College of Lake County, which has been
>> fun.
>> > I'm planning on being at the Indiana Linux Fest this spring to give my
>> > Python for Linux tutorial, and we at Zoro Tools are thinking of
>> sponsoring
>> > there, as we did OLF. So I hope to reconnect with some of you there.
>> >
>> > On the matter of hosting and domains, I haven't heard what you want to
>> do,
>> > but I'm moving things so some decisions need to be made. I have 2
>> domains
>> > for the LUG - fortwaynelug.org and fortwaynelinux.com. The .org domain
>> > won't expire until 2013, while the .com (which just points to the .org
>> > version) will expire in February. Due to GoDaddy's support of SOPA I'm
>> > moving things away from them now. Part of that move means that I'm
>> > consolidating most of my hosting to either Nearlyfreespeech.net or
>> > webfaction.com, and frankly, I don't have the time or inclination to
>> > migrate the LUG site. So some options come to mind...
>> >
>> > For the domains:
>> > 1. I transfer the domains to someone with a Godaddy account (Canterbury
>> > has one) or other registrar account and that person takes it from
>> there..
>> > 2. I just let them both die...
>> > 3. I let the fortwaynelinux.com domain just lapse and move the
>> > fortwaynelug.org over to nearlyfreespeech.net and we have a year to
>> > figure out who takes over the domain...
>> >
>> > If I don't hear something in the next week or so, I'm inclined to lean
>> > towards option 3, although I would think that option 1 is the best.
>> >
>> > For the hosting, I'll be keeping that account open through February, but
>> > that's really a hard deadline, because I won't have any other sites on
>> that
>> > service by then and another hosting bill comes due. So we can...
>> >
>> > 1. Just let the site die when I cancel my account with that provider...
>> > 2. Someone can take the site over - I'll be happy to give that person
>> the
>> > login info to grab all of the content, or I can provide a tarball of the
>> > entire site, if you prefer...
>> > 3. Some one can create a new site, we can leave the old content behind
>> and
>> > just move forward...
>> >
>> > Or whatever else you can think of... While I don't need a final answer
>> on
>> > all of it in the next week, I would sort of like to know about the
>> domains
>> > pretty soon, so I can finish my transfers. In particular, if the LUG or
>> > anyone else wants the fortwaynelinux.com domain, let me know, since it
>> > expires in early Feb. I'd ask the domain decision be public on this
>> list,
>> > so that the entire group is OK with who's taking over.
>> >
>> > So think about it (maybe at a business meeting this coming Thursday? ;)
>> )
>> > and let me know what you think. I'd hate to see things die, but it just
>> > doesn't seem appropriate for me to be maintaining this from a distance.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Vern
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Vern Ceder
>> > [email protected], [email protected]
>> > The Quick Python Book, 2nd Ed - http://bit.ly/bRsWDW
>> >
>> >
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 08:56:08 -0600
>> From: Vern Ceder <[email protected]>
>> To: Travis Paul <[email protected]>
>> Cc: Fort Wayne Linux Users Group <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [fwlug] Web hosting and domain name ownership... sort of
>>        an      ultimatum...
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>> Hi Travis,
>>
>> To be honest, I don't know that we need to worry about transferring the
>> list archives - this list is archived at gmane.org. I'm sure we could
>> extract the email addresses and load them into a new server. While it's a
>> mailman list, unfortunately the actual command line interface is not
>> available IIRC, so I'm not sure of exactly what options we might have. I
>> suppose the worst case would be to set up the new list and then send out a
>> few emails to the old list nagging people to sign up on the new list.
>>
>> The domain doesn't have to live at GoDaddy at all... it's unlocked and
>> ready to transfer to any place, really. The reason I mentioned GoDaddy is
>> that it is a bit easier to just hand over ownership internally there.
>> However, I'm not that thrilled with them at the moment, so I'd be just as
>> happy to move it directly off of there.
>>
>> For everyone else on the list, either make a counter offer or suggestion
>> if
>> you want...
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Vern
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 8:06 AM, Travis Paul <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > I would be willing to take over registration and hosting for 2012 unless
>> > someone objects or unless someone else would prefer to take it over. I
>> > don't attend meetings but I do follow and utilize the mailing list. The
>> > only thing I'm unsure about setting up is the mailing list itself so I
>> > might have some questions but I'm sure I will figure it out.
>> >
>> > Vern, if you hear from the other members that this is ok we can exchange
>> > the needed information. I would prefer to just transfer the domains
>> over to
>> > my gandi.net account but I do have a GoDaddy account if the domain
>> needs
>> > to live there for awhile.
>> >
>> > On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Vern Ceder <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi everyone,
>> >>
>> >> Happy Holidays to All! I hope you all are having a great holiday.
>> >>
>> >> For my part, I've been enjoying Lake County, and have hooked up with a
>> >> newly created LUG hosted at the College of Lake County, which has been
>> fun.
>> >> I'm planning on being at the Indiana Linux Fest this spring to give my
>> >> Python for Linux tutorial, and we at Zoro Tools are thinking of
>> sponsoring
>> >> there, as we did OLF. So I hope to reconnect with some of you there.
>> >>
>> >> On the matter of hosting and domains, I haven't heard what you want to
>> >> do, but I'm moving things so some decisions need to be made. I have 2
>> >> domains for the LUG - fortwaynelug.org and fortwaynelinux.com. The
>> .org
>> >> domain won't expire until 2013, while the .com (which just points to
>> the
>> >> .org version) will expire in February. Due to GoDaddy's support of
>> SOPA I'm
>> >> moving things away from them now. Part of that move means that I'm
>> >> consolidating most of my hosting to either Nearlyfreespeech.net or
>> >> webfaction.com, and frankly, I don't have the time or inclination to
>> >> migrate the LUG site. So some options come to mind...
>> >>
>> >> For the domains:
>> >> 1. I transfer the domains to someone with a Godaddy account (Canterbury
>> >> has one) or other registrar account and that person takes it from
>> there..
>> >> 2. I just let them both die...
>> >> 3. I let the fortwaynelinux.com domain just lapse and move the
>> >> fortwaynelug.org over to nearlyfreespeech.net and we have a year to
>> >> figure out who takes over the domain...
>> >>
>> >> If I don't hear something in the next week or so, I'm inclined to lean
>> >> towards option 3, although I would think that option 1 is the best.
>> >>
>> >> For the hosting, I'll be keeping that account open through February,
>> but
>> >> that's really a hard deadline, because I won't have any other sites on
>> that
>> >> service by then and another hosting bill comes due. So we can...
>> >>
>> >> 1. Just let the site die when I cancel my account with that provider...
>> >> 2. Someone can take the site over - I'll be happy to give that person
>> the
>> >> login info to grab all of the content, or I can provide a tarball of
>> the
>> >> entire site, if you prefer...
>> >> 3. Some one can create a new site, we can leave the old content behind
>> >> and just move forward...
>> >>
>> >> Or whatever else you can think of... While I don't need a final answer
>> on
>> >> all of it in the next week, I would sort of like to know about the
>> domains
>> >> pretty soon, so I can finish my transfers. In particular, if the LUG or
>> >> anyone else wants the fortwaynelinux.com domain, let me know, since it
>> >> expires in early Feb. I'd ask the domain decision be public on this
>> list,
>> >> so that the entire group is OK with who's taking over.
>> >>
>> >> So think about it (maybe at a business meeting this coming Thursday?
>> ;) )
>> >> and let me know what you think. I'd hate to see things die, but it just
>> >> doesn't seem appropriate for me to be maintaining this from a distance.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Vern
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Vern Ceder
>> >> [email protected], [email protected]
>> >> The Quick Python Book, 2nd Ed - http://bit.ly/bRsWDW
>> >>
>> >>
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>> --
>> Vern Ceder
>> [email protected], [email protected]
>> The Quick Python Book, 2nd Ed - http://bit.ly/bRsWDW
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>> Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 10:54:00 -0500
>> From: Clifford Garwood II <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected], Fort Wayne Linux Users Group
>>        <[email protected]>
>> Cc: Travis Paul <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: [fwlug] Web hosting and domain name ownership... sort of
>>        an ultimatum...
>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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>> Agreed, their stance on SOPA is disgusting.
>>
>> On Tue, 2011-12-27 at 08:56 -0600, Vern Ceder wrote:
>> > However, I'm not that thrilled with them at the moment, so I'd be just
>> > as happy to move it directly off of there.
>> >
>>
>>
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