I have no problem letting Joe take over if he still wishes, if not my offer
still stands.

On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Vern Ceder <[email protected]> wrote:

> So it looks like both Joe and Travis have offered to take over...
>
> What say you all? Any resolution?
>
> And Joe has suggested just migrating the addresses. This would be pretty
> easy, I can extract that data very quickly.
>
> So please, let me know what you all want to do... the clock is ticking on
> that  hosting.
>
> Cheers,
> Vern
>
> On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Joseph Brennan <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> For some reason I thought this had been resolved.
>>
>> I am also in the process of moving my domains from GoDaddy (because of
>> their support for SOPA) and Moniker (b/c I've been hearing bad things about
>> their customer service since they were bought out, although I personally
>> haven't had an issue yet).
>>
>> I would be happy to take over the domain name registration and hosting. I
>> have an unlimited hosting plan, and the domain name expense is small. On
>> the other hand, I have not been attending the meetings of late, so some
>> might consider me an absentee member like Vern -- although this semester, I
>> shouldn't have class conflicts and plan to attend at least some of the Ivy
>> meetings, since I live right down the street.
>>
>> As for the list archives, perhaps it would be best to save only the old
>> addresses and delete the content. Someone here might be in dire economic
>> straits someday and be forced to apply for a job at GoDaddy, Frontier or
>> <gasp> Microsoft and might not want their mailing list comments to be
>> easily retrievable, despite having been warned "This is a public list and
>> all posts are archived publicly. Please keep this in mind before posting."
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 1:00 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>>   1. Re: Web hosting and domain name ownership... sort of an
>>>      ultimatum... (Travis Paul)
>>>   2. Re: Web hosting and domain name ownership... sort of an
>>>      ultimatum... (Vern Ceder)
>>>   3. Re: Web hosting and domain name ownership... sort of an
>>>      ultimatum... (Clifford Garwood II)
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 09:06:46 -0500
>>> From: Travis Paul <[email protected]>
>>> To: [email protected], Fort Wayne Linux Users Group
>>>        <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [fwlug] Web hosting and domain name ownership... sort of
>>>        an      ultimatum...
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>>> I would be willing to take over registration and hosting for 2012 unless
>>> someone objects or unless someone else would prefer to take it over. I
>>> don't attend meetings but I do follow and utilize the mailing list. The
>>> only thing I'm unsure about setting up is the mailing list itself so I
>>> might have some questions but I'm sure I will figure it out.
>>>
>>> Vern, if you hear from the other members that this is ok we can exchange
>>> the needed information. I would prefer to just transfer the domains over
>>> to
>>> my gandi.net account but I do have a GoDaddy account if the domain
>>> needs to
>>> live there for awhile.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Vern Ceder <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi everyone,
>>> >
>>> > Happy Holidays to All! I hope you all are having a great holiday.
>>> >
>>> > For my part, I've been enjoying Lake County, and have hooked up with a
>>> > newly created LUG hosted at the College of Lake County, which has been
>>> fun.
>>> > I'm planning on being at the Indiana Linux Fest this spring to give my
>>> > Python for Linux tutorial, and we at Zoro Tools are thinking of
>>> sponsoring
>>> > there, as we did OLF. So I hope to reconnect with some of you there.
>>> >
>>> > On the matter of hosting and domains, I haven't heard what you want to
>>> do,
>>> > but I'm moving things so some decisions need to be made. I have 2
>>> domains
>>> > for the LUG - fortwaynelug.org and fortwaynelinux.com. The .org domain
>>> > won't expire until 2013, while the .com (which just points to the .org
>>> > version) will expire in February. Due to GoDaddy's support of SOPA I'm
>>> > moving things away from them now. Part of that move means that I'm
>>> > consolidating most of my hosting to either Nearlyfreespeech.net or
>>> > webfaction.com, and frankly, I don't have the time or inclination to
>>> > migrate the LUG site. So some options come to mind...
>>> >
>>> > For the domains:
>>> > 1. I transfer the domains to someone with a Godaddy account (Canterbury
>>> > has one) or other registrar account and that person takes it from
>>> there..
>>> > 2. I just let them both die...
>>> > 3. I let the fortwaynelinux.com domain just lapse and move the
>>> > fortwaynelug.org over to nearlyfreespeech.net and we have a year to
>>> > figure out who takes over the domain...
>>> >
>>> > If I don't hear something in the next week or so, I'm inclined to lean
>>> > towards option 3, although I would think that option 1 is the best.
>>> >
>>> > For the hosting, I'll be keeping that account open through February,
>>> but
>>> > that's really a hard deadline, because I won't have any other sites on
>>> that
>>> > service by then and another hosting bill comes due. So we can...
>>> >
>>> > 1. Just let the site die when I cancel my account with that provider...
>>> > 2. Someone can take the site over - I'll be happy to give that person
>>> the
>>> > login info to grab all of the content, or I can provide a tarball of
>>> the
>>> > entire site, if you prefer...
>>> > 3. Some one can create a new site, we can leave the old content behind
>>> and
>>> > just move forward...
>>> >
>>> > Or whatever else you can think of... While I don't need a final answer
>>> on
>>> > all of it in the next week, I would sort of like to know about the
>>> domains
>>> > pretty soon, so I can finish my transfers. In particular, if the LUG or
>>> > anyone else wants the fortwaynelinux.com domain, let me know, since it
>>> > expires in early Feb. I'd ask the domain decision be public on this
>>> list,
>>> > so that the entire group is OK with who's taking over.
>>> >
>>> > So think about it (maybe at a business meeting this coming Thursday?
>>> ;) )
>>> > and let me know what you think. I'd hate to see things die, but it just
>>> > doesn't seem appropriate for me to be maintaining this from a distance.
>>> >
>>> > Cheers,
>>> > Vern
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Vern Ceder
>>> > [email protected], [email protected]
>>> > The Quick Python Book, 2nd Ed - http://bit.ly/bRsWDW
>>> >
>>> >
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>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 08:56:08 -0600
>>> From: Vern Ceder <[email protected]>
>>> To: Travis Paul <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: Fort Wayne Linux Users Group <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [fwlug] Web hosting and domain name ownership... sort of
>>>        an      ultimatum...
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>>> Hi Travis,
>>>
>>> To be honest, I don't know that we need to worry about transferring the
>>> list archives - this list is archived at gmane.org. I'm sure we could
>>> extract the email addresses and load them into a new server. While it's a
>>> mailman list, unfortunately the actual command line interface is not
>>> available IIRC, so I'm not sure of exactly what options we might have. I
>>> suppose the worst case would be to set up the new list and then send out
>>> a
>>> few emails to the old list nagging people to sign up on the new list.
>>>
>>> The domain doesn't have to live at GoDaddy at all... it's unlocked and
>>> ready to transfer to any place, really. The reason I mentioned GoDaddy is
>>> that it is a bit easier to just hand over ownership internally there.
>>> However, I'm not that thrilled with them at the moment, so I'd be just as
>>> happy to move it directly off of there.
>>>
>>> For everyone else on the list, either make a counter offer or suggestion
>>> if
>>> you want...
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Vern
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 8:06 AM, Travis Paul <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> > I would be willing to take over registration and hosting for 2012
>>> unless
>>> > someone objects or unless someone else would prefer to take it over. I
>>> > don't attend meetings but I do follow and utilize the mailing list. The
>>> > only thing I'm unsure about setting up is the mailing list itself so I
>>> > might have some questions but I'm sure I will figure it out.
>>> >
>>> > Vern, if you hear from the other members that this is ok we can
>>> exchange
>>> > the needed information. I would prefer to just transfer the domains
>>> over to
>>> > my gandi.net account but I do have a GoDaddy account if the domain
>>> needs
>>> > to live there for awhile.
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Vern Ceder <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Hi everyone,
>>> >>
>>> >> Happy Holidays to All! I hope you all are having a great holiday.
>>> >>
>>> >> For my part, I've been enjoying Lake County, and have hooked up with a
>>> >> newly created LUG hosted at the College of Lake County, which has
>>> been fun.
>>> >> I'm planning on being at the Indiana Linux Fest this spring to give my
>>> >> Python for Linux tutorial, and we at Zoro Tools are thinking of
>>> sponsoring
>>> >> there, as we did OLF. So I hope to reconnect with some of you there.
>>> >>
>>> >> On the matter of hosting and domains, I haven't heard what you want to
>>> >> do, but I'm moving things so some decisions need to be made. I have 2
>>> >> domains for the LUG - fortwaynelug.org and fortwaynelinux.com. The
>>> .org
>>> >> domain won't expire until 2013, while the .com (which just points to
>>> the
>>> >> .org version) will expire in February. Due to GoDaddy's support of
>>> SOPA I'm
>>> >> moving things away from them now. Part of that move means that I'm
>>> >> consolidating most of my hosting to either Nearlyfreespeech.net or
>>> >> webfaction.com, and frankly, I don't have the time or inclination to
>>> >> migrate the LUG site. So some options come to mind...
>>> >>
>>> >> For the domains:
>>> >> 1. I transfer the domains to someone with a Godaddy account
>>> (Canterbury
>>> >> has one) or other registrar account and that person takes it from
>>> there..
>>> >> 2. I just let them both die...
>>> >> 3. I let the fortwaynelinux.com domain just lapse and move the
>>> >> fortwaynelug.org over to nearlyfreespeech.net and we have a year to
>>> >> figure out who takes over the domain...
>>> >>
>>> >> If I don't hear something in the next week or so, I'm inclined to lean
>>> >> towards option 3, although I would think that option 1 is the best.
>>> >>
>>> >> For the hosting, I'll be keeping that account open through February,
>>> but
>>> >> that's really a hard deadline, because I won't have any other sites
>>> on that
>>> >> service by then and another hosting bill comes due. So we can...
>>> >>
>>> >> 1. Just let the site die when I cancel my account with that
>>> provider...
>>> >> 2. Someone can take the site over - I'll be happy to give that person
>>> the
>>> >> login info to grab all of the content, or I can provide a tarball of
>>> the
>>> >> entire site, if you prefer...
>>> >> 3. Some one can create a new site, we can leave the old content behind
>>> >> and just move forward...
>>> >>
>>> >> Or whatever else you can think of... While I don't need a final
>>> answer on
>>> >> all of it in the next week, I would sort of like to know about the
>>> domains
>>> >> pretty soon, so I can finish my transfers. In particular, if the LUG
>>> or
>>> >> anyone else wants the fortwaynelinux.com domain, let me know, since
>>> it
>>> >> expires in early Feb. I'd ask the domain decision be public on this
>>> list,
>>> >> so that the entire group is OK with who's taking over.
>>> >>
>>> >> So think about it (maybe at a business meeting this coming Thursday?
>>> ;) )
>>> >> and let me know what you think. I'd hate to see things die, but it
>>> just
>>> >> doesn't seem appropriate for me to be maintaining this from a
>>> distance.
>>> >>
>>> >> Cheers,
>>> >> Vern
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Vern Ceder
>>> >> [email protected], [email protected]
>>> >> The Quick Python Book, 2nd Ed - http://bit.ly/bRsWDW
>>> >>
>>> >>
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>>> >> this in mind before posting.
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>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Vern Ceder
>>> [email protected], [email protected]
>>> The Quick Python Book, 2nd Ed - http://bit.ly/bRsWDW
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>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 10:54:00 -0500
>>> From: Clifford Garwood II <[email protected]>
>>> To: [email protected], Fort Wayne Linux Users Group
>>>        <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: Travis Paul <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [fwlug] Web hosting and domain name ownership... sort of
>>>        an ultimatum...
>>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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>>>
>>> Agreed, their stance on SOPA is disgusting.
>>>
>>> On Tue, 2011-12-27 at 08:56 -0600, Vern Ceder wrote:
>>> > However, I'm not that thrilled with them at the moment, so I'd be just
>>> > as happy to move it directly off of there.
>>> >
>>>
>>>
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