On Dec 14, 8:38 am, "Bibin M." <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yes, a bad cable may prevent function.
>
> On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 9:32 AM, Bucky <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Dec 12, 8:06 pm, "Bibin M." <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > It may be possible that the ATA channel used for the hard drive in the
> > pismo
> > > or lombard is busted; unlike most G3 laptops, they had a separate channel
> > > for the HDD and CD, and this may be why the CD works fine. If you can,
> > try
> > > building/buying a hard drive enclosure that fits in one of the bays, and
> > see
> > > if that works. Since the hard drive you tried works on the Wallstreet, I
> > > think it is safe to rule out ATA-6 incompatibility.
>
> > > On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 6:35 PM, Bucky <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > I have just last month run across a stack of Powerbooks for $10 each
> > > > at a thrift store. While there were many Pre PowerPC. the were some
> > > > PowerPC and even some G3 Powerbooks.
> > > > Being limited to $25 I picked the best of the selection. A 400Mhz
> > > > Lombard and a 500MHz Pismo. None of them had batteries or power-cords.
> > > > anyways back to the main point.
>
> > > > I've been unable to get an internal drive to work in either of them. I
> > > > could format and install 9.2 on a Wallstreet, but the new Powerbooks
> > > > would not recognize the HD. I haven't gotten very far with the
> > > > lombard, It will boot, and I can get into open-firmware, but I haven't
> > > > gotten it to boot from a USB cd-rom drive.
>
> > > > But I have been able to get the Pismo to boot from firewire hard
> > > > drives and cd-rom drives without a problem. but it will crash whenever
> > > > I try to format the internal drive OR try to view the IDE information
> > > > in the System Profiler.
>
> > > > How DO you tell if a hard drive is ATA 5 or 6? I tried several drives
> > > > that simply don't work on the new G3's. even the one original to the
> > > > Wallstreet II won't work in them. Or is it the IDE cables? I don't
> > > > know which possibility to go for first or how to test for it.
>
> > > > Unfortunately none of the hard drives have a convenient "ATA-5
> > > > Compatible" sticker.
>
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Bucky
>
> > I wasn't using the internal CD. they didn't come with one. I was using
> > my USB/firewire LG "super multi". They did for some strange reason
> > have a 250MB zip drive module. Actually I don't remember trying them
> > out. I think I didn't have any zip disks at the time.
>
> > Would a bad cable produce the same problems as a bad channel? What are
> > the chances that both a Lombard and Pismo would have the same
> > problems? I only got farther on the Pismo because of the firewire.
>
> > Thanks,
> > Bucky.
Perhaps I will learn from this, but is it really possible to boot
these machines from an external USB CD-ROM?
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