PETER WARNER wrote:
> Hello, I am new to the list. I made a mistake and posted this question 
> to the G-Group, Folks were very helpful anyway, until a list manager 
> noticed... Oops.
> I still have one unresolved question, Can I use the AC adapter from my 
> 300 mhz Clamshell (tangerine) to test out the Lombard, in case that 
> was the issue?
> Ron's reply was helpful, but if anyone Knows for sure, that would be 
> great.
> Here is the thread from the other list:
>
>
>>> My G3 Lombard has been having power issues lately.  Starting a few
>>> weeks ago, it only charged the battery to 20%.  My wife (who
>>> primarily uses this computer) is away at her Mom's house, and Just
>>> called me today to say that it won't turn on at all even with the
>>> power cord plugged in. Is it likely that I can fix this with a new
>>> cord, "charging Board", and PRAM battery, or do you think I need to
>>> spring for a new battery as well?
>>>
>>
>> Pull the main battery and see if it runs on external power.
>>
>> WRT repair, you're thinking in the right direction.  Leave the main
>> battery decision until last.  First tho, clean things.  Crud in the
>> power socket can be nasty...
>>
>> HTH,
>> - Dan.
>>
> Thanks Dan,
> When I called this morning , I had her reset the PRAM... It came on
> for a few min. then went black again, as if it were not recognizing
> the power cord at all.  When she gets home next week I'll do a good
> cleaning.
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Peter
>
> This scenario tells me that your battery is hosed and your charger may
> not be working either.
>
> When the Lombard sits unused for a while, it can "sort of recharge"
> the battery if it is plugged into a power outlet. It may not take a
> complete charge because of the age and condition of the battery. You
> have described a "momentary power on and power failure" situation when
> you said that it came on for a few minutes and then went black. This
> is the classic description of a battery without any charge in it or
> too weak to hold a good charge.
>
> Suggestions:
>
> Try starting it up with a power adapter plugged in and the battery
> removed. If it runs, the power adapter is good. If it doesn't run, the
> power adapter is probably at fault.
> Try starting it up with the original battery (charged up), but with no
> power adapter plugged in. If it runs, the battery is good for a while
> anyway. If it doesn't run, the battery is probably at fault.
> Try starting it up with a different battery (if available and charged
> up) and no power adapter plugged in. If it runs, you have confirmed
> that your original battery is at fault.
> Try starting it up with a different power adapter (if available). If
> it runs this time, the original power adapter is at fault.
>
> By doing it in this manner, you are eliminating each power source as
> the culprit one part at a time and can concentrate on repairing or
> replacing the suspect part.
>
> Happy testing.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Thanks Ron,
> I will try all of that on Sunday, when My wife, and my Lombard get 
> back from their trip.  As far as a different power adapter is 
> concerned, am I right in thinking that the adapters from Clamshell 
> I-books are compatible with lombard and pismo?
> Peter
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> I cannot answer this with certainty without having one of each adapter
> in front of me to read the label. Check the output voltage on each
> adapter to be sure that you are not putting a high voltage into a low
> voltage machine. As long as the plug fits the socket and the voltage
> output also matches, you should be able to use the adapters
> interchangeably.
>
> Apple made some changes in the size of the plug/socket from one model
> to another and that can cause problems if you don't properly identify
> the needed model of charger. And, then Apple came out with the MagSafe
> adapter which uses a totally different connection method. Thank you,
> Apple, for the added confusion!
>
There is a Apple knowledge base article that cross references the 
adapters to laptops. I lost the apple book mark folder on this computer 
somehow. If you don't find it by the time I get home Sunday I check the 
other computer.

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