Hello, I am new to the list. I made a mistake and posted this  
question to the G-Group, Folks were very helpful anyway, until a list  
manager noticed... Oops.
I still have one unresolved question, Can I use the AC adapter from  
my 300 mhz Clamshell (tangerine) to test out the Lombard, in case  
that was the issue?
Ron's reply was helpful, but if anyone Knows for sure, that would be  
great.
Here is the thread from the other list:


>> My G3 Lombard has been having power issues lately.  Starting a few
>> weeks ago, it only charged the battery to 20%.  My wife (who
>> primarily uses this computer) is away at her Mom's house, and Just
>> called me today to say that it won't turn on at all even with the
>> power cord plugged in. Is it likely that I can fix this with a new
>> cord, "charging Board", and PRAM battery, or do you think I need to
>> spring for a new battery as well?
>>
>
> Pull the main battery and see if it runs on external power.
>
> WRT repair, you're thinking in the right direction.  Leave the main
> battery decision until last.  First tho, clean things.  Crud in the
> power socket can be nasty...
>
> HTH,
> - Dan.
>
Thanks Dan,
When I called this morning , I had her reset the PRAM... It came on
for a few min. then went black again, as if it were not recognizing
the power cord at all.  When she gets home next week I'll do a good
cleaning.

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Peter

This scenario tells me that your battery is hosed and your charger may
not be working either.

When the Lombard sits unused for a while, it can "sort of recharge"
the battery if it is plugged into a power outlet. It may not take a
complete charge because of the age and condition of the battery. You
have described a "momentary power on and power failure" situation when
you said that it came on for a few minutes and then went black. This
is the classic description of a battery without any charge in it or
too weak to hold a good charge.

Suggestions:

Try starting it up with a power adapter plugged in and the battery
removed. If it runs, the power adapter is good. If it doesn't run, the
power adapter is probably at fault.
Try starting it up with the original battery (charged up), but with no
power adapter plugged in. If it runs, the battery is good for a while
anyway. If it doesn't run, the battery is probably at fault.
Try starting it up with a different battery (if available and charged
up) and no power adapter plugged in. If it runs, you have confirmed
that your original battery is at fault.
Try starting it up with a different power adapter (if available). If
it runs this time, the original power adapter is at fault.

By doing it in this manner, you are eliminating each power source as
the culprit one part at a time and can concentrate on repairing or
replacing the suspect part.

Happy testing.

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Thanks Ron,
I will try all of that on Sunday, when My wife, and my Lombard get  
back from their trip.  As far as a different power adapter is  
concerned, am I right in thinking that the adapters from Clamshell I- 
books are compatible with lombard and pismo?
Peter

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I cannot answer this with certainty without having one of each adapter
in front of me to read the label. Check the output voltage on each
adapter to be sure that you are not putting a high voltage into a low
voltage machine. As long as the plug fits the socket and the voltage
output also matches, you should be able to use the adapters
interchangeably.

Apple made some changes in the size of the plug/socket from one model
to another and that can cause problems if you don't properly identify
the needed model of charger. And, then Apple came out with the MagSafe
adapter which uses a totally different connection method. Thank you,
Apple, for the added confusion!


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