On Nov 4, 2011, at 3:33 PM, a1 wrote:

> Gentlemen, neither method worked. I suspect it has had a power
> management issue for awhile now, since the trackpad would
> intermittently freeze and require several restarts to unfreeze. Any
> more drastic measures I can take? In the worst case scenario, would
> any of the internals fit or transfer into a G3 dual usb 500 iBook?
> Memory, hard drive, airport extreme card? I'd be keen to try to save
> the hard drive; this has been my main mac lately. It is the final G4
> iBook made, I believe.

The G4 and G3 iBooks used the same hard drive, so that will swap OK. Airport 
Extreme (G4 iBook) will not fit in a G3 500 iBook (Airport). The G4's PC2700 
RAM will not work in the G3 either. Nor will the slot load optical drive in the 
G4 fit in the G3. The LCD and hinges are interchangeable, though Chi Mei LCDs 
used in some late G4 iBooks require a manufacturer-specific LVDS cable. 
Keyboards may/may not swap, depending on screen/case sizes of the keyboards. 
The big win for you is the interchangeability of the hard drive.

You may be facing a video chip issue. A loose video chip (broken solder joints) 
will cause a no-start condition. I've been able to get iBooks like yours to 
chime and boot to the desktop by placing some pressure on the top case on the 
left hand palm rest just below the bottom row of keys *after* doing an Open 
Firmware reset:

set-defaults (hit Return key)
reset-nvram (Return)
reset-all (Return)

You may have to try this several times. A long wait before the grayish OF 
screen lights up also is expected.

What this does is clear out any corrupted PRAM and other start-up 
commands/checks caused by prior shutdowns or no-starts. The pressure (not too 
much because the hard drive lives under the left palm rest) pushes the broken 
solder joints together long enough to let a normal startup sequence complete. 

If you are successful in getting the iBook to start up this way, try lifting 
the iBook by one corner or another. If the iBook immediately shuts down or 
begins to send flashes of artifacts or black lines on the screen, that's strong 
evidence of a loose video chip issue. A reflow of the ball grid array solder 
joints (more than 400!) may temporarily fix the problem. Shimming the video 
chip in a G4 iBook doesn't work because the chip already is clamped between the 
logic board and a heat sink (however sometimes the clamping studs come loose 
from the logic board). 

Good luck!

Jim Scott

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