On Jan 25, 2005, at 2:38 AM, Dylan Moore wrote:

Hey geoff,
let me start out by saying that i completely understand your frustration, I think that apple is changing from the company I knew and loved a decade ago-- but then again, that's because they're moving to the mass market. Any time a computer company has to put a warning on their website stating that users should not eat their product, such as the ipod shuffle, you know that they've started to market their products to a population that is a little less than technically inclined.
Are you serious, good laugh, good..good good laugh..ohmy They wonder why we 17th in the world in education.




For all of that, applecare hasn't really changed. I just got an ibook, bought applecare for it, and it was 187.00 USD with my student discount. There was an issue with the keyboard, so they sent me a replacement, no problem. They've replaced my first gen ipod twice already, and I didn't even HAVE applecare on that. They took back and replaced parts on my G3 lombard nearly two years out of any sort of warranty without cost, they made a house call to replace my
motherboard in my dual G4 quicksilver just barely out of warranty and with no cost.


And that is my Apple Care that I love, maybe I get the people in the wrong celestial time. I have never had to use Apple Care till the Pismo deals and I have still have the goliath Mac 512, which started out as 128k. Sorry I upgraded it now, those old puppies will be worth a mint someday...


--> Will they cover a cup of java sloshed into the keyboard? No, that was your fault for not remembering middle school science, and thinking that liquid and electronics go hand in hand.

WHOAAAAA You missed the point, NOTHING was spilled in the lap top, That referral of coffee smell was Kyle ranting that he had or would turn down a A/C repair if he smelled coffee or saw a liquid


These are my 2 lap tops, no one else uses them, I will share my Desktops, but not the books. All 4 kids have Pismos, one got a new this year iBook and I got my wife a ibook.

But nothing was spilled. I do not lie, it's easier to remeber what you said and a moral line I do not cross. Just me.

--> Will they cover a laptop that's been dropped out of a moving car? Well, you can always try, but my guess is that kyle and his ilk will probably frown and ask again how it happened, just to hear it one more time.

It was fine when I packed it>>>>>>  No you got this wrong and it's/


I see your point about the update software, and while it would be nice to have CDs to distribute, I for one appreciate that apple doesn't manufacture such things, which would really be wasteful, since it's available online anyway. 100mb is a long download for sure, but my guess is that it'd be done in two days, much shorter than sending a CD via priority
mail.

Ahhh another person who has not used dial up for many moons. You could not do it, and it took 200 megs to bring the machines up to date. I offered to pay shipping and any cost. The kid was burned out and just nasty and was not helping at all. The updates included security updates released in Dec. I am not putting them on trial, this is all about a poor guy waiting 17 now 18 days for a simple screen.




my suggestion is to lighten up a little bit and look at the whole pictures. you make it sound like a 14" screen shortage was premeditated or some sort of plan Steve Jobs came up with just to annoy you. Rest assured, they can't make screens appear out of the thin air, and making such things typically takes time.
 1 phone call NW 747 20 hours. a whole plane full


Oh, and does apple sincerely monitor our lower end mac list? C'mon, and fess up if you're an apple 'spy'... (you're okay, kyle! : ) We've caught you reporting our secret messages back to apple ( ;

If you don't think Apple does not monitor most every board do a little digging. Most corporations monitor the internet for sites that relate anything to them. Either through their own security or outside companies. Get too far into the real stuff and they will bight. In fact Apple just sued some site for releasing information prior to their last Mac Fest. All major companies do this. There are not just good sites about companies on the web. Do a search for your insurance company, that will give you a reason to pull out that policy. Anyway, take care and good luck.
-dyl ( =

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�Also do not expect much complaints on the Apple boards, they monitor
them very closely. Even lists like this.�
...dun dun dun!
Oh I do not expect a complaint over something like this no. When I was REALLY PISSED OFF over the PBs that's when there was a lister who pointed out how great Apple was and in that post was something that only Apple Care and I knew about the one computer, it gave me a pause. They pull the complainers off Apples own boards, which they have right to do, but open speech and thought seems to be one of the many things we slowly are losing. It seems so innocuous everyone kinda goes along as it just the way it is today, pass the cheeseburger.
Good health
Geoff



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