Lol, in the future you might not want to make =me= the subject of the email... Or if it's that tailored to just reply to me off list. Gave me a start there, I thought I was in trouble. ;)
>> Which would make it more feature complete than MacOS X.... ;) > > OS X 10.1 has DV and Digital camera support out of the box, so it is > getting there. Absolutely- I prefer the way 10.1 handles downloading images from the camera compared to XP. The only thing I (and others) were commenting on is that XP is shipping, and is much more feature complete/compatible than 10.1, which is not only annoying, it's saddening. No one is wanting to jump platforms, they just wish/hope apple gets really really moving. It's one thing to be a minority platform if your OS/platform is obviously better... >> Really, you had windows98 which had a ton of features > > Did it - I must have missed them! ...not even going there. :) >> WinXP combines both of those... It is actually very, very stable on a new >> machine using the recommended hardware and is a very compatible system. > > I don't have a P4. It's not quit AS stable on AMD processors but them MS > don't work with AMD, which strikes me as a bit anal considering a great > number of home and games users use Athlon processors due to the > Price:Power ratio. Never mind. It is good but has crashed on me a couple > of times (once was NVIDIA's fault, their new XP drivers are duff IMHO) but > both were in unusual circumstances. I also have trouble with the USB on my > MoBo but that is again an AMD thing I think. Yep, that's the thing that scares me about OS X right now... It's neck and neck with XP, or behind in compatibility. :( It's not a flame against OS 10.1 - it's an awesome OS, and it gives apple an amazing platform and eschews decades of legacy code to let them start to do some cool things. I understand a lot of the decisions they've made, but those decisions have trade offs and have put 10.1 behind, and it's disappointing... You pay a premium for macos hardware and software, so you want it to be the best- and if it's not that has to be addressed. >> I =love= the concept of OS X, I think most people do. But it is very fair >> to >> say that apple is in the same place windows was 2 years ago (in regards to >> having a split operating system base, one being more compatible and >> sure-fire with one being much more stable and the future of the platform) > > Not really. WinNT/2k was a business only solution designed to keep the > people who really mattered (the money spinners) happy. Sur we are still > split between OS 9.x and OS X but it is not as big a split as win9x v. 2k. > Most apps work in Classic, as most 9x apps worked in 2k, but there are > exceptions, as there are in Win2k. Apple however want everyone to have OS > X and get used to it where as MS actively discouraged home users and home > apps/games producers from using Win2k. Well, I may differ a little there... MS knew that one of the bad things about having so much entreched marketshare is that you can't just ask everyone to switch. There's just too much that people have/use... They learned this fromt he fact that as big as windows95 was, people are STILL using windows3.1. :) The plan all along was to create windowsNT as the next generation OS, with dual development of win98, with them eventually merging into a single code base... It just took a lot longer than it should have, which is why the abomination of windowsME exists... On another list people were discussing what would have happened if apple marketed OS X as a development/server/professional solution while actively developing macos 9.x.x instead of marketing as an OS that everyone could use and eventually merging it as the standard. They may not even have had the resources to do it, but I think it would have saved a LOT of the "incomplete" feel that people have about OS9 and OS10... Because it is suppoed to be "the" system, people feel like they're using antiquated technology with 9 and a 3/5 baked OS with 10.1. :( >> whereas microsoft has already gone through that process and (love it or >> hate >> it) has delivered an operating system that is feature complete but has the >> benefits of windows2000. > > Done a fine job of it too IMHO. I had the same outlook on XP as I did on > 10.1, that it was going to be 'the answer' to a lot of people's criticism. > I think XP is better than I thought, where as 10.1 is only as good as I > expected it to be. Agreed- I had a friend go on and on about how they'd never use winXP because of all the little "helpers" it uses (sign up for passport, signup for this) and an hour later he used picture viewer and got the "purchase quicktime pro" message and got even =more= annoyed... The lines are really starting to blur between macos and winXP, which is ok- apple just needs to keep it in mind and not do "good enough" or "nicer" it needs to be absolutely kick ass. An example would be SAMBA sharing in 10.1... It's nice that it exists, but dear god who the HELL at apple decided it was a good idea to make you have to go to the go menu and type in the server's name and password verbatim or you get a cryptic error message? You don't pay a premium for that, you pay a premium because you go to "network" and click on "show windows servers" and it just comes up. -- Michael Bryan Bell http://homepage.mac.com/michael_bell/ -- G-List is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... 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