The DDR32mb edition is the best choice simply because it is the top of the line in performance. ( and can still be found for about 160 new - I know where a couple are if anyone is interested ). And as Mark just said the only ones that should be concerned with it are Gamers < we in the wrong platform for gaming =( > And even at being top-of-the-line it still underperforms a V5 <cheaper but NO osX> in instances < U.T. for one example >. The 7000 is an excellent card, not just a cut-down version of the DDR32 but more geared toward everyday use and demands..DVD's are without fault, you get a second monitor, and in many, many, many cases it performs just as well as the DDR32. Plus you can still get one new. As far as price, that has to do with patience and oppertunity < I paid $100 + 10-shipping > (I had a V5 to do me till I lucked across one)
the thing is with the next generation of games comming out towards the end of the year, my Radeon DDR32 is going to feel more like an unsuported V3. So us hardcore/PCI gamers only have a few choices for continued MAC playability < when things get ported over > 1> Get an AGP <mb or comp.> 2>keep fingers crossed and hope someone may eventually care about us MAC PCI owners (R.I.P. 3DFX) or 3> figure out how to get a Geforce to work in a MAC <pci> for those who cant go to an AGP the GeForce is the only silver cloud on the horizon. It is my understanding that there are at least one and maybe two Geforce's that dont even need flashing to get into a mac/pci. I missed out on an opertunity to test this out, but still on the look out. If I can pick up a card for under $30 Ill risk it... I cant afford to thro anymore than that away IF it happens not to work. Im not looking for any more speed than I have with my DDR32, keeping things realistic vs a 32mb GeForce. The benifit with be in terms of compatibility and smoothness, since the newer games are being developed with/and for a Geforce in mind <nvidea>. **if only to squeeze another 6mos. to a year out of the ole girl till trade her in for an AGP concept. Unless youre a hardcore gamer playing hardcore games... I wouldnt sweat it and go for the well rounded 7000. If you are a hardcore gamer into hardcore games < heavily demanding processor and video types > then grab ya a DDR32 and keeps fingers crossed for a New card to come out or someone finding a fool-proof path to putting a Geforce in a mac/pci as the 3DFX Voodoo's were. (though even with a high-end card gamers are still limited to the bus speed with which all that info travels - regardless how fast the video processor processes) I personally have little faith in many companies to help us mac owners out in that area... we are barely/if at all worth the effort to develope spy software for =) and/or virus's. So Im staying with my DDR32 untill an unsuspecting GeForce walks by and I snatch it up for a little experimenting. (Im almost temped to try it on a 64mb Geforce/pci but for now its all about the $$) if/when this happens Ill post here what I have learned, its either this or an AGP for me, and the more Ive looked into it Im thinking more on building one inside an ATX case rather than modifying my B&W. on 10/29/02 6:56 AM, Mark Benson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Monday, Oct 28, 2002, at 20:56 Europe/London, Luca Rescigno wrote: > >> As far as I know, the standard Radeon PCI (not the Radeon 7000) is >> better than the 7000 because it has better 3D performance. I heard that >> ATi crippled the 7000 to push sales of their more expensive cards, but >> the standard Radeon is actually better (and unfortunately, it's also >> been discontinued, so expect to pay a premium). >> >> A standard Radeon PCI should be as good as a Radeon AGP, which is some >> pretty good performance. I have a digital audio G4 with an AGP Radeon >> and it's excellent. Not top-notch; I'm sure I could get something >> better, but it's up there. Expect to pay $150 or more for a standard >> Radeon, and you have to make extra sure it's not a Radeon 7000. > > I really don't know what everyones problem is with the Radeon 7000, I > have one on my B&W G3 and it's a great card, plus it only cost me $90 > (plus $15 shipping to get it across the pond). I know everyone > initially slated it but that was because the drivers were hopeless and > it kept flicking out all the time. The latest ATi updates and OS X > 10.1.5 or later have fixed that, as well as improving it's overall > stability and speed. I think the fact that the B&W G3 has a 66MHz PCI > slot helps a great deal. Unless you are a hardcore Mac gamer or do big > phat 3D graphics work in an OpenGL environment then I don't think the > fact the original Radeon PCI is a faster 3D card is really an issue, > according to various reviews the 7000 PCI, since it has had various > driver and OS updates, out performs the original PCI in the OS X > desktop environment, during normal 2D operations. I don't think the > 7000 PCI is crippled 'per-se' i think it is a different card that > concentrates more on 2D power to appeal more to the wider replacement > market looking to upgrade G3s to get better OS X performance. > > -- > Mark Benson -- G-List is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... 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