On Friday, Nov 15, 2002, at 03:25 Europe/London, Albert W D'Amanda 
wrote:

> Ran SpeedRun using Jaguar 10.2.1
>
> OS doesn't make a difference
>
>   On PCI Power Macs , all my data indicates that   there is no Graphics
> "speed" improvement going to  the Radion 7000  32mb card ( compared to
> the Stock ATI Rage Pro 16mb card )

The stock card in the Beige G3 isn't 16MB is it?? I thought it was 6MB 
max.

To answer Clae's original question I have an iBook with a 4MB Rage Pro 
chipset (Rage Mobility) and it is ok at 800x600 but it doesn't exactly 
leap out and slap you in the face. Maybe it's just 'cause it's an LCD ;)

I think there is a problem that has cropped up here that the Radeon 
7000 doesn't seem to shift many pixels unless it's on the B&W G3/Yikes! 
G4 66Mhz PCI Slot. I have seen a lot of people with old world PCI 
PowerMacs (both G3s and earlier machines) saying the Radeon is not a 
good performer.

If you want a graphical boost over the Rage Pro in the Beige G3 buy an 
ATi Rage Orion or Nexus (is that right), both are Rage 128 based and 
have 16MB or 32MB respectively. There are a lot of Rage 128s for the 
Mac going around on LEM Swap and eBay at the moment from people like me 
who have upgraded to a PCI Radeon. Before you ask no I'm not selling 
mine ;).

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