Ok.  It's starting to sound like there is something up with the onboard
vide on your machine.  There was another reply that suggested playing
with the video cable.  I don't think that will cause or solve your 
problem because if there was a problem with your video cable, it would
affect the screen in different ways (missing colours, no sync, etc)..

Next suggestion, which I think you were thinking about doing anyways
is to grab a pci video card and boot your machine with it and not the
onboard video.

Those lines could be caused by a cold solder joint, or a bad connection
on one of the components of the video circitry.  If it goes away with
time, that suggests that it might be heat related.  Perhaps there is 
a component on there that heats up/cools down, and after many many
times of this happening, (or maybe ther were other extream heat conditions)
that the connection either internally in that component, or a connection
to the board might be flakey as the component expands and contracts.

So ya, just give it a shot with a PCI card, and I bet the problem
will not happen any more.

-nils

On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 11:31:05PM -0400 or thereabouts, applejackxx wrote:
> 
> Thanks for suggestions.
> ?
> First I do not have an additional VRAM chip, so that is not the problem.
> ?
> I have been able to get the lines to go away. 
> ?
> It goes like this:
> ?
> I will open up the machine and check to make sure all the connections to
> the motherboard are secure and then I will boot the machine. Usually
> after doing this once the lines are perhaps different but still there.
> If I do this about 2 or 3 more times then they are usually gone.
> Although there have been an instance or two when they have not. Then if
> I just leave the machine on for awhile it will just go away on its own. 
> ?
> I have checked all of my ram chips ( 64meg, 32meg, 32meg) separately and
> I have had some level of the problem with each one. The 64meg chips on
> its own had the least lines and they did clear up by the time that the
> startup had ended. The chips all different configurations but they have
> brand names ( 64meg- Kingston, 32meg- Texas Instruments, 32meg- Micron).
> ?
> Otherwise I have tried to blow some of the congealed junk off of the
> board.
> ?
> Any other advice would be appreciated.
> ?
> ?
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: G-List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dana
> Collins
> >Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 7:48 AM
> >To: G-List
> >Subject: Re: G3 Beige - Horizontal lines>
> >
> >> From: applejackxx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Subject: G3 Beige - Horizontal lines
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Hi, 
> >> 
> >> I just got a G3 Beige 233mhz but I have these strange horizontal
> lines
> >> on the screen. Also, there are some dashes following the curser. On
> >> start up the cursor is sometime 2 vertical lines like the number "11"
> >> about 5 times the size of the normal cursor.
> >> 
> >> When I use this monitor on other computers it is fine.
> >> 
> >> Here is a screen capture
> >> 
> >> http://home.comcast.net/~applejackxx/screenimage1.pdf
> >> 
> >> 
> >> What can I do about this?
> >
> >
> >This was one of the symptoms I experienced in my search for the correct
> >installation obstacle. What fixed my problem was discerning a bad RAM
> >module. Lots of you folks shared that OS X is far more finicky (or far
> less
> >forgiving) than prior OS's. Perhaps this is one of those finicky
> moments?
> >>Since yours is a beige, and not "New World", do you happen to have a
> VRAM>
> >upgrade card (SGRAM style) not seated properly?
> >Best regards,
> >Dana

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