Thank you for the reply Doug. Though the time is a bit more modern (re:
these drives), your description is certainly accurate. No flames from me!
:-)
Best regards,
Dana

On 7/3/04 5:24 PM, GDB-G3-OSX of [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent

> Dana Collins wrote:
> 
>> Greetings all,
>> Is it possible that some hard drives (ATA of course) would work w/ a beige
>> G3 but not with a B+W? Or, pray tell, are "new world" Macs fussier about
>> hard drives (like they are on RAM)?
>> 
>> I have an Apple OEM 4gig ATA drive. Installed in a beige G3 tower, I booted
>> off an OS 9.2.1 CD: the drive mounted and responded to a low-level
>> (zero-out) formatting w/ out a hitch.
>> 
>> I installed the same HD into a B+W (rev. 1 board), and also booted up in OS
>> 9.2.1 - the HD would not mount
>> 
>> I took the same machine/same HD and booted off of a Jaguar CD:
>> 1) Disk Utility saw the HD and attempted to format and/or partition,
>>   appeared to be successful, but was not really based on the results that
>>   follow (note: an error message never appeared)
>> 2) Repair would attempt to repair the drive, but suspiciously did so
>>    way-too-fast.
>> 3) OS X installer never saw the drive
>> 
>> I find this odd. Any comments?
>> Best regards,
>> Dana
>> 
>>  
>> 
> Dana, coming from extensive PC experience and virtually no Mac
> experience, the biggest item I have seen is the Mac's trouble
> recognizing IDE/ATA drives, especially when/if you do a lot of drive
> swapping.  Early experiences with PC's when they first started using IDE
> drives were similar.  The problem is the number if different drive
> manufacturers and the fact that the standard is so loose you could drive
> a truck through it!  Early on with PC's it was necessary to manually set
> up the drive pararmeters in CMOS (PRAM) so that the computer would know
> what it was.  The earliest ones had to be installed using an old
> outdated HD parameter chart that was designed for older MFM/RLL type
> hard drives.  You just had to pick one that was close enough to what you
> had.  A user definable setup choice made this much easier and finally
> PC's were able to detect the drive so no setup was needed.  It seems to
> me that Apple came to this stage of trying to determine the drive type
> on it's own and earlier firmware used to do this is not as good as it
> could be.  I only have  beige G3 to base this on and I'm sure the later
> machines do not have as much problem with swapping drives and
> recognizing them for what the really are.  Once they are setup and
> working properly (and the PRAM battery is good) they seem to be very
> stable.  It's just when you swap drives that it seems to confuse the
> PRAM.  Okay all you "Macs forever, PC's never" guys, let the flames begin!
> 
> Just a message from Doug...
> 


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