--- Larry le Mac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> >There are three places to put them.
> 
> Thanks, however, neither explain the reason for my
> problem
> as I only have one account, the admin from which I
> run all apps.
> 
> Freehand can see and use some fonts which other
> programs,
> e.g. Illustrator and Acrobat can't.
> 
> If I create a PDF from a Freehand file which has
> Helvetica in
> it, the font is substituted as Acrobat/printing
> process can't
> access the font.
> 
> If I use Arial, no problems...
> 
> ???
> 
> 
> Larry
> 

As digital prepress for a four color print shop, fonts
have been the bane of my existance in the past. From
what you are saying this is what I am assuming.

You are using Jaguar
You are using Freehand 9 or 8
You are using Illustrator 10 or CS
You are using ATM for font management in Classic since
I think I saw that mentioned in another of your
responses.

There are a couple of problems with this set-up that
are easily fixed.

I'm assuming Jaguar since Panther has Font Book built
in that gives you the option of adding fonts for X and
Classic at the same time.  

If you are a designer Font Book probably won't work
for you since if you have too many fonts on at once
Safari and the Printer Setup Utility won't work until
you turn off a bunch and restart.  If you aren't a
designer you might try upgrading to Panther.  I'm not
a designer and I just turn on the fonts needed for
whatever file I'm ripping so Font Book works fine for
me and I always just have it add for only me so incase
some weird font screws up my user fonts folder I can
just trash it and it won't mess up the whole system.

The good thing about Jaguar is that it supports nested
fonts within the library/fonts/    folder.  This is
good because in Freehand you can go to File/Collect
For Output and it will grab all the fonts, pictures
and junk and put them in one folder the actual ones
the file is using... not any extras so you don't grab
the wrong ones.  Then you can take those fonts and put
them in a folder named whatever that job is Fonts  ie
*John Doe BC Fonts* and drop it into the font
folder.... then if you are finding you are getting too
many open at once you can just pull them out of there.
 

Though in Jaguar you have to close and reopen the X
application before it will recognize them, in Panther
you just close the file and reopen it after turning
fonts on and they are correct.

When I was using Jaguar I'd Favorite Place my
username/library/fonts folder so I had instant access
to drop a folder of fonts in there when needed.

Next I assumed Freehand 8 or 9 and Illustrator 10 or
CS because the former two are Classic Applications and
the latter two are X native.   ATM works with the
Classic Apps but not the X native ones.  Which is why
you can export a Macintosh EPS from Freehand and have
all the fonts missing when you open it in Illustrator
10 or Photoshop 7 or later for that matter.  By doing
what I said above you're problem will go away.  

The funny thing about PDF's is that Acrobat 5 and up
is X native but the Distiller part is still a Classic
application  so you can make a file in Illustrator
then save it as an eps then try to use Distiller and
not be able to because it can't find the fonts.  

This is a bit more of a pain because Distiller does
NOT support nested folders.  So if you  were working
on the *John Doe BC* I mentioned above in Illustrator
then wanted to use Distiller to make the pdf to send
off to your printer you'd have to go under Settings in
Distiller to Font Locations ( or hit Command L) and
show Distiller where the *John Doe BC Fonts* folder
that we popped into the library is.  Then it will work
just fine.

Personally I keep Font Book and ATM in my dock and use
them for X and Classic font management respectively.

Matt aka HamletUSMC
http://www.geocities.com/hamletusmc/


                
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