and you should still have surge arrestors/noise filters plugged in where you have 
sensitive/expensive equipment to
protect from noise (which whole house surge arrestors don't, and a whole house noise 
filter while possible would be very
expensive and would have to install in series with the main panel, possibly with a 
panel before it just for a breaker,
very messy) and local spikes (i.e. from vacuum cleaners, washers, refrigorators/air 
conditioners etc.) and as backup,
particularly since all arrestors let some energy sneak through (usually on a 120 line 
a surge protector will let it go
up to about 250V or so briefly, which is a lot better than several thousand volts and 
can be tolerated by most equipment
briefly).  

i may have written the email you mention.  since i got a new ebay catalog i can give 
anyone interested the part numbers
to build your' own whole house unit for about $60+enclosure+breaker+buss bars etc. 
(they have to be on a breaker to
comply with code, preferably a 100A or 200A breaker with wiring that can handle that 
current).  it is possible and even
easy to provide a monitoring light so the user knows if that breaker has tripped and 
the protection is off (when these
things fail they fail shorted, so you absolutely need a breaker, and should never open 
the surge protector box with
power on since when they fail shorted they can and sometimes do explode rather 
violently, as you'd expect when you short
out the mains!).  the monitoring light can easily be remote if you use a low voltage 
transformer in the surge arrestor
box to power a small light from the circuit the arrestor is on, if you were really 
worried in a semi-commercial setting
you could hook up an alarm bell with a little more work, though that would mean you'd 
want a volunteer to run out in the
storm and pull the main breaker most likely....(though those can be modified to be 
controlled from somewhere else as
well if  you really wanted to, it just cost $, most breaker companies have units you 
can add to the standard breakers
for that, used in some industrial setups for equipment that's on multiple breakers 
etc. when you want them all to turn
off when one circuit trips).

of course with these very, very large ZNRs failure is unlikely, they can handle a 
surge current of 40,000 amps irc
depending on which model you spring for.  now that i actually have the part numbers 
available again, if any one is
interested contact me off list, possibly a group buy could be set up to save more, 
possibly if many people are
interested they could throw a few ZNR's my way ;).  i've wanted to do this for some 
time but couldn't find the part
numbers the last time i had $ and it could be awhile before i have money for that 
again.  and digikey now has a better
unit available in a different case, it was more than that for parts a few years ago 
and the rating was slightly lower. 
these znr's respond in about 25ns, which is very, very fast indeed.  i do recommend a 
metal box for heat and protection
reasons, and some venting on the bottom again for heat dissipation and pressure relief 
should one fail shorted and pop
(they usually just pull the breaker, but occasionally the breaker isn't fast enough or 
the surge is really huge, like
the power companies high voltage line being shorted to your house power, i.e. 13.8KV 
at thousands of amps, being
connected to your' 120V! but that is hopefully fairly rare, or a direct lightning hit 
on the power line, in which case
you are probably out of luck all on all of your equipment).  fyi, the "code" (nec) is 
available for free download, or at
least last years is and your library may have a copy of the most current codes for 
your' area, they should be followed
at all times or you can void your' insurance if you do something that's not to code 
and a fire starts that may have been
caused by your' work, though a whole house arrestor is usually mounted outside right 
next to the box and has little
chance of causing problems.  in fact it needs to be as close to the main panel as 
possible.

Brian wrote:
------ 
> Your best (and only, really) defense against lightning, and any
> originating-external-to-the-house issues, is: proximity to ground. you
> could have a $500 backUPS type solution in your computer room but if
> it's a long way from house ground, or even not grounded WELL as many
> older houses can be (and a 3 prong plug does not a ground make) it is
> not doing any real good against surges.
------

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