At 09:19 AM +0100 01/25/2005, Are Hansen wrote:
I have the same problem with clients beeing disconnected, though I can't say there is any orderly 30 min system to it.

The server is a PowerMac 9600 with a 100 MBits ethernet-card, the clients are two G4 AGPs (350 and 400 Mhz), all connected through a switch. Copying files is slow, much slower than when the clients too ran OS9.

Instead of connecting to the server through the Network pane in Finder windows, I tried the Connect to... from Finders Go-menu. There you have to type in the servers IP-adress, thus avoiding using the AppleTalk protocol I believe (you also have to turn on TCP/IP file sharing on the server).

This avoids EtherTalk, not AppleTalk.

AppleTalk is the higher level protocol "suite" that Macs use to do their native networking operations. EtherTalk is an AppleTalk module that enables AppleTalk to run directly over Ethernet. By using the IP address, you are telling the Finder to avoid EtherTalk, and use AppleTalk over TCP/IP over Ethernet.

Yea, that means you're encapsulating the afp packets (Apple Filing Protocol) in extra layers of networking - which should slow things down. It doesn't because Apple has done an extremely crappy job of debugging the EtherTalk module on OS X, so AppleTalk/IP runs slightly faster and is more reliable.

This bumps up the speed somewhat, but it is still much slower than an all OS9 setup, and the server has to have a fixed IP-number.

Is there any way around this, except getting an OSX-server? As I understabnd it, the old PM 9600 could run OSX 10.1. Would that make a faster server?

Mac-to-Mac networking in OS X really sux. Apple has really dropped the ball. For performance, the best environments are pure OS 8/9 or pure OS X.


Here at home, I have OS 8, OS 9, Jaguar, Panther, Win2K, and WinXP. Going nutz trying to keep things connected reliably. OS X just doesn't play well with OS 8 or 9. It really ticks me off that file transfer speeds between our OS X machines and a PC are faster than to our OS 9 machines. But then again, OS 8/9 to OS 8/9 is faster than anything OS X does.

Anyway, for reliability... I've resorted to running NetPresenz on the OS 8/9 machines. So we use normal AppleTalk/afp/EtherTalk to go OS 8/9 -> OS X and then good'ole FTP to go OS X -> OS 8/9. :\

FWIW,
- Dan.

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