At 09:31 AM +0100 01/26/2005, Are Hansen wrote:Thanx for the info, Dan. What you say about AppleTalk and EtherTalk seems a bit strange though; if I turn off AppleTalk in System Preferences, I can still use Connect to... from Finder: how come?
hum. Ok. Lemme back up a bit. :)
AFP *is* an AppleTalk/AppleShare protocol. Its routines reside within shared libraries, so they're accessable at any time. At issue is how you access which underlying network layer (stack).
AFP is AppleShare. It can use AppleTalk or IP but the two are independent of each other.
AFP over EtherTalk requires that AppleTalk be "turned on".
AFP over IP requires that TCP/IP be "turned on".
The system sniffs which stack to use by your input, an AT name vs an IP addr.
Once you select a server with AppleTalk it will attempt to connect to the server via IP if it can. If the server isn't serving on IP then it simply uses AppleTalk. If the server reports it is using IP then the client will attempt accessing the server via IP. If it can't be reached there will be a delay while it attempts it. If it can't connect via IP it reverts to AppleTalk. This can happen if the two computers are connected by AppleTalk but not IP (such as using LocalTalk without MacIP or one is using dial up instead of Ethernet for IP).
But AFP is not using AppleTalk over IP.
So the problem of OS9-servers for OSX is well known, appearently. But what can I do about it? I can't and won't go back to OS9 client side, and need a simple setup for my un-technical users to connect.
What I'm doing about it is running NetPresenz on the OS 8/9 servers, and something like CyberDuck on the OS X machine.
ftp://pcp02336381pcs.echryh01.nj.comcast.net/tools/NetPresenz-41.sit
What about 10.1 on the PM9600? I know that OSX version is considered immature, but would it be good enough to run as a server?
I donno much about Puma, other than Apple naming it after my cat. It might work. IMO, why bother - just use NetPresenz. It's good for OS X users to know how to use FTP anyway...
- Dan.
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