On Wednesday, June 8, 2005, at 03:31 PM, Indiana John wrote:

Mike Kauspedas wrote:

I love Intel. Working for a PC shop I quickly learned that if you want reliability and quality Intel was the way to go, at the cost of higher prices. Intel offers a 3 year over night parts replacement warranty to all vendors. Meaning the little shop I worked for could offer the same warranty to customers. They could bring the defective part back and Intel would ship a part out the same day to be received the next.

I got into Macs because I started working for a high school and curiosity. I'm typing this in Mail on 10.2 right now. I love it, just wish I had more money to blow so I could get a mini or something. This old G3 400 has certainly seen it's day :)

So I think the move is good. Especially since it should mean cheaper PowerMacs. I also think it will encourage more people to switch because Intel is a popular recognizable manufacturer. Apple can combine the reliability of it's own OS with the reliability and speed of Intel. Although Mac's now are pretty darn reliable.

This basically provides Apple with a cheaper way to build PC's and advance their software. I have never thought of Apple as a hardware provider since it's their OS that everyone wants to use. No one buy's an Apple just so they can put Linux on it. So although tit may tick off a lot of Mac users you will all convert (mwuuhahaha! lol) because you want to use a reliable convenient OS like Mac OS. The same reason I am using an Old BnW versus my Athlon64 3400+ :)

I just had to weigh in because of my love for all things computers, PC and Mac :)

-Mike


Then you are missing the point entirely! The Mac has always been a combination of unique hardware ( and I don't mean just case design) *and* the Mac OS. If the new "Macs" are just going to be a PC in an Apple-designed case running the Mac OS, then it's NOT a Mac anymore. It would be like me saying that my Umax S900 is a BeBox, just because it's running BeOS. Even if I cover the Umax sticker on the front with a BeOS one, it doesn't make it a BeBox. (And yes, I do have a BeBox too.) No more than I can call my lone remaining PC running Mandrake a "Linux". Unfortunatly, at this point we just don't know exactly what the new "Mactel" machines will be like inside, so this is creating a lot of confusion and speculation. I place the blame for this squarely on Job's shoulders. He could easily make a a statement clarifying the situation, but his flair for the dramatic is apparently more important. As far as I'm concerned tho, if it will run Windoze natively, then it's just another PC, no matter what it says on the > box.

JR

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Ok, I understand the CPU and bus is unique to the PPC architecture and no PC uses this, but. Mac's use PCI, AGP, PC ram, PC video cards, 64 bit PCI slots, SCSI, IDE, SATA, etc. If they are so unique I would ONLY be able to buy Apple branded products instead of shoving PC parts into them. Aside form the mobo and CPU everything else in my BnW right now is from a PC. I guess my definition of unique is different than others.

If you still want a unique computer go get a Sun workstation, but then you don't get a convenient OS.

-Mike



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