Mike Kauspedas wrote:




Then you are missing the point entirely! The Mac has always been a combination of unique hardware ( and I don't mean just case design) *and* the Mac OS. If the new "Macs" are just going to be a PC in an Apple-designed case running the Mac OS, then it's NOT a Mac anymore. It would be like me saying that my Umax S900 is a BeBox, just because it's running BeOS. Even if I cover the Umax sticker on the front with a BeOS one, it doesn't make it a BeBox. (And yes, I do have a BeBox too.) No more than I can call my lone remaining PC running Mandrake a "Linux". Unfortunatly, at this point we just don't know exactly what the new "Mactel" machines will be like inside, so this is creating a lot of confusion and speculation. I place the blame for this squarely on Job's shoulders. He could easily make a a statement clarifying the situation, but his flair for the dramatic is apparently more important. As far as I'm concerned tho, if it will run Windoze natively, then it's just another PC, no matter what it says on the > box.

JR

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Ok, I understand the CPU and bus is unique to the PPC architecture and no PC uses this, but. Mac's use PCI, AGP, PC ram, PC video cards, 64 bit PCI slots, SCSI, IDE, SATA, etc. If they are so unique I would ONLY be able to buy Apple branded products instead of shoving PC parts into them. Aside form the mobo and CPU everything else in my BnW right now is from a PC. I guess my definition of unique is different than others.

If you still want a unique computer go get a Sun workstation, but then you don't get a convenient OS.

-Mike



Wrong again. Just because you can use *some* PC parts in a Mac means nothing. Sure the PCI and AGP slot specs are the same, but there's much more to it than that. If there wasn't, there wouldn't be all those "flashed-for-Mac" Radeon video cards floating around. Apparently you haven't been around Macs (or PC's for that matter) long enough, or you would know that most PCI and AGP cards as well as most optical drives have something called "firmware" onboard. The firmware is what the OS/chipset interfaces with when using the hardware in order to do something with it. If the OS/chipset and the devices firmware can't "talk" to each other, it don't work. Hard drives are pretty much "OS-agnostic" these days, as well as RAM, but that's not the case for most other devices such as the previously mentioned optical drives, AGP cards, PCI cards, ATA cards, USB/Firewire cards, and more. If the the device doesn't have the right firmware, or can't be "flashed" for the right firmware, then it's just not gonna work in a Mac. So, I guess Macs are more unique in hardware than you think.

JR

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