On Thursday, June 30, 2005, at 08:28 PM, Indiana John wrote:
Charles Davis wrote:
On Thursday, June 30, 2005, at 03:19 PM, Daniel wrote:
On Jun 30, 2005, at 15:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
Oh geez. Do you REALLY believe that OS X is less reliable and less
efficient than OS 9? If so, cite specific examples to support your
claim.
Daniel
Not that simple Daniel. OSX is purposely "less reliable and
efficient" than it could be with very little more effort on Apple's
part.
For example --- (May not still be the case with Tiger) --- the
'STANDARD' advice to 'rebuild the Desktop' ------ IF they would
fix those little annoying glitch type problems, instead of shoving
them under the carpet, there WOULD BE NO NEED TO EVER REBUILD THE
DESKTOP. (Yeah I'm shouting. I can't believe the 'good quiet sheep'
attitude of Mac users, not raising hell about such sloppy programming
attitudes.)
JMHO
Chuck D.
You've NEVER had to rebuild the desktop under OS 9??? I know I have!
1st question. Which OS9? I.E. "OS-9 Operating System (c) Microware
Systems Corporation and Motorola Incorporated" (commonly available with
the Radio Shack Color Computer, and the Dragon in Great Briton), or MAC
OS9.
Conversely, I don't recall EVER having to rebuild the desktop under
any version of OS X (thru 10.3.9) that I've run yet.
The "Desktop" item was given as an example of the 'sloppy' programming
pervading Apple OS's (in the old days). I contend that there hasn't
really been much improvement since then.
Another commenter, mentioned that the 'permissions' problems showing up
in the various incarnations of "X" would have been a better example,
and I agree. But I was really trying to point out that this is a 'Long
Term Problem'. (The attitudes, and resultant implementation problems.)
Microware OS-9 HAD system file protections using UNIX style
'permissions', and I don't remember ever having 'permissions' problems.
And as far as OS 9 being more reliable than OS X, that sure hasn't
been my experience!
I didn't say that. OSX IS an improvement. What I said (at least the
idea I meant to get across, is that the implementation of "X", whatever
version, is sadly lacking in 'fixing' things that are problems. Each
version adds more 'Bells & Whistles', usually fixes SOME problems, but
leaves or adds other problems. THAT is the result of the referenced
'Programming Attitudes'.)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] I've somehow lost the threading marker for this next
paragraph. Sorry!]
I had way more stability issues under OS 8/9 than I've EVER had under
X! The very few times I've had a kernal panic under OS X has always
been tracked back to a hardware issue, and never an OS problem. Sure,
I've had an app occasionally "unexpectedly quit" (like it would be an
"expected" quit!), but at least it doesn't take the whole OS down with
it, and nine times out of ten I can just restart the app and go on.
Can't say that about my experience with 8/9. I count uptimes on my OS X
machines in weeks, unless I need to restart for a software
update/install or we have a power outage. I can't count all the time I
got a system crash, or usually a system lock-up and forced restart
under 8/9. Overall, I'm much happier with X. And before I hear about
how I must be running newer, faster, high-dollar machines, my laptop
is a G3/700 iceBook, and my fastest "desktop" (actually sits on the
floor) is a G4/450 Sawtooth with stock video and 896 mb RAM. I'm not a
gamer, and with only a 28.8 dial-up, these are plenty fast enough for
now. Hopefully someday I'll step up to a G5, but that will likely be
the last Mac I'll buy, as I'll never own a "Mac PC".
(the above paragraph DOES belong to JR)
JR
Problems are a part of "New Systems". That I don't complain about,
fixes that aren't fixes, or are a 'step back' I do complain about
Chuck D.
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