On Jul 26, 2005, at 1:51 PM, David Dierlam wrote:

how did you know you had bad ram? was there a program
or did you just start pulling?

Just started pulling, but I did it last, unfortunately. After doing everything else possible, including stripping down the computer to the bare bones one piece at a time, and testing after each piece (hence the hair-pulling), I finally started pulling the RAM sticks. With two of the three sticks installed, no matter what slot they were installed in, everything worked fine and OS-X would install. When that third RAM stick was installed, no matter which slot it was put in, X refused to install or run, although 9 continued to work normally. That's what fools people, including me. You have to get it in your head that 9 will apparently work fine with a bad RAM stick, while X won't work at all. Or, as Mark wrote originally, it might work but badly.

Tom




--- Tom Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

All the hair-pulling frustrations that I had when I
originally tried to
install X on this G-4 DA 733 turned out to be a bad
memory stick too,
although it had worked just fine in 9 for a year
(although, who knows,
maybe it had been causing trouble that I attributed
to other things).
And with other people reporting the same problems
here from time to
time, I have to wonder about quality control in the
companies that make
these RAM sticks. Why so many bad ones?

Tom

On Jul 26, 2005, at 7:09 AM, Marc van Gemert wrote:

Maybe some of you remember me saying that OS X
(10.3.8) on my G4 at
work (G4 933MHz) was so slow?
Well lately I was getting freezes and kernal
panics (especially in
Photoshop) so I suspected that I had some bad
memory. I have one stick
of 256MB and one of 512MB, well after the 256MB
stick was removed all
freezes and kernal panics were gone, and goes
what, suddenly I noticed
a real increase in speed!! Opening windows in the
Finder, opening apps,
and opening docs in apps was noticebly faster :)
Strange, but true. I
was really shocked 8)

And luckily the speed is still there now after a
new 256MB stick has
been added. Can't believe this is happening to me
:) Then to think I've
worked almost a year with that bad stick... Can't
believe that bad
memory can have such a negative effect on overall
speed...


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