On Jan 8, 2009, at 3:37 PM, nestamicky wrote:

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> Al Poulin wrote:
>> I want to use a 1TB external Firewire hard drive initialized in Apple
>> Partition Map to make bootable clones of a PPC G4 iBook and two or
>> three Intel Macs.  Each source machine will have its own partition on
>> the FW drive.  I plan to use "Incremental backup" for File level
>> copying.
>>
> Your project here is perhaps the best yet use of larger harddrives  
> I've
> seen in a short while. Most of us do file servers, but your idea  
> hear to
> have bootable partitions of all your systems on an external HD is  
> great,
> as it will save you so much time when something goes wrong.
>
> My question, and maybe Dan would pitch in, do size of the partition on
> the machine and that on the external drive have to be the exact same?

Not DAN, but my opinion anyway,

The partitions need to be big enough to hold the amount of data  
involved.

I.E. A  "BOOT" partition, has to include vacant space to be 'run- 
able' !!!
  A copy (clone) if you are not going to BOOT --- THAT partition,  
doesn't need to include that space.
BUT, to check that things took properly, and so that you CAN  
operationally boot the 'clone', you will need to have that  
'space' (less than 10% available 'empty space', leads to operational  
problems. [Don't ask how I know])

So, my recommendation --- pick a partition size to accommodate your  
operating OS, and partition accordingly.

>> To restore files, CCC documentation says in several places:  "Note
>> that you cannot select the boot drive as the target, you will need to
>> boot from another drive if you need to restore directly to your boot
>> drive."

Another reason for having more than the absolute minimum space  
available when 'cloning'.
To restore, boot the 'clone copy', and clone THAT back to your  
original location (or wherever else you might want it.)

>>   Does this mean that I simply boot from the clone on the
>> partition of the FW drive and launch CCC on that partition, or must I
>> boot from a third volume?
>>
>> Is there any utility in having a separate, bootable "universal"  
>> volume
>> on my FW drive with its own copy of CCC?

If you 'cloned' your OS partition, doesn't it include your copy of  
CCC?  It should, and when you boot that 'cloned copy' it will have  
CCC right ready there to use. [Just like you planned it!!!   ;-)]

>>   Note Apple's Article
>> HT2595.  If so, then when Snow Leopard comes to my Intel Macs, that
>> volume is not longer universal, right?
>>
>> I foresee moving the FW drive from Mac to Mac and room to room to  
>> keep
>> bootable clone backups up to date.  Looking at CCC documentation for
>> backing up "to another Macintosh on your network," it appears that
>> this method cannot maintain a bootable clone, since the context deals
>> with "selected data" to a "folder."  Correct?
>>
That may be a problem, doing 'incremental' updates to the 'cloned'  
copy. [I think it SHOULD work.]

I always just do a 'full' clone.
[Also I us SuperDuper!  but the overall intention is the same.]
Chuck D.

>> Thank you,
>> Al Poulin
>>
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