>On Jan 8, 2009, at 3:37 PM, nestamicky wrote:
>
>  > Al Poulin wrote:
>>>  I want to use a 1TB external Firewire hard drive initialized in Apple
>>>  Partition Map to make bootable clones of a PPC G4 iBook and two or
>>>  three Intel Macs.  Each source machine will have its own partition on
>>>  the FW drive.  I plan to use "Incremental backup" for File level
>>>  copying.
>>>
>>  Your project here is perhaps the best yet use of larger harddrives 
>>  I've
>>  seen in a short while. Most of us do file servers, but your idea 
>>  hear to
>>  have bootable partitions of all your systems on an external HD is 
>>  great,
>>  as it will save you so much time when something goes wrong.
>>
>>  My question, and maybe Dan would pitch in, do size of the partition on
>>  the machine and that on the external drive have to be the exact same?
>
>Not DAN, but my opinion anyway,
>
>The partitions need to be big enough to hold the amount of data 
>involved.
>
>I.E. A  "BOOT" partition, has to include vacant space to be 'run-
>able' !!!
>   A copy (clone) if you are not going to BOOT --- THAT partition, 
>doesn't need to include that space.
>BUT, to check that things took properly, and so that you CAN 
>operationally boot the 'clone', you will need to have that 
>'space' (less than 10% available 'empty space', leads to operational 
>problems. [Don't ask how I know])
>
>So, my recommendation --- pick a partition size to accommodate your 
>operating OS, and partition accordingly.
>
>>>  To restore files, CCC documentation says in several places:  "Note
>>>  that you cannot select the boot drive as the target, you will need to
>>>  boot from another drive if you need to restore directly to your boot
>>>  drive."
>
>Another reason for having more than the absolute minimum space 
>available when 'cloning'.
>To restore, boot the 'clone copy', and clone THAT back to your 
>original location (or wherever else you might want it.)
>
>>>    Does this mean that I simply boot from the clone on the
>>>  partition of the FW drive and launch CCC on that partition, or must I
>>>  boot from a third volume?
>>>
>>>  Is there any utility in having a separate, bootable "universal" 
>>>  volume
>>>  on my FW drive with its own copy of CCC?
>
>If you 'cloned' your OS partition, doesn't it include your copy of 
>CCC?  It should, and when you boot that 'cloned copy' it will have 
>CCC right ready there to use. [Just like you planned it!!!   ;-)]
>
>>>    Note Apple's Article
>>>  HT2595.  If so, then when Snow Leopard comes to my Intel Macs, that
>>>  volume is not longer universal, right?
>>>
>>>  I foresee moving the FW drive from Mac to Mac and room to room to 
>>>  keep
>>>  bootable clone backups up to date.  Looking at CCC documentation for
>>>  backing up "to another Macintosh on your network," it appears that
>>>  this method cannot maintain a bootable clone, since the context deals
>>>  with "selected data" to a "folder."  Correct?
>>>
>That may be a problem, doing 'incremental' updates to the 'cloned' 
>copy. [I think it SHOULD work.]
>
>I always just do a 'full' clone.
>[Also I us SuperDuper!  but the overall intention is the same.]
>Chuck D.
>
>>>  Thank you,
>  >> Al Poulin


When I finally recovered from my monster crash of Dec 17and after an 
"Write all zeros" Erase I then installed 10.4.11 on my 250 Gig and 
partitioned my 500 Gig to 420 and 80 then realizing that the 500 Gig 
may have had physical problems I did a "Write all Zeros " erase on 
the 420 and 80.

That gave me a 420 Gig and a 45 Gig. Many bad sectors on the 80 gig. 
I probably should have Nuked the whole 500 Gig and then partitioned 
but by then I was out of patience.
Then I used used SuperDuper to do an incremental back-up on the 420 
Gig and 45 Gig. I figured from what the SuperDuper notes said that it 
would up-date all that was different on the Target. Since there was 
nothing on the the Target I thought that would mean everything on the 
250 Gig would be moved to the Partitions.

Also Part of the instructions on SuperDuper says leave the Target 
Bootable after an Incremental Up-Date.

When finished I had two Bootable partitions that were clones of the 
250 Gig drive. Now I run MacJanitor on the 250Gig  and  incrementally 
back the partitions up nightly. It takes about six minutes for about 
9.25 Gig's with my Dual 500 GigE to increment each partition.

I do have a question though.

When I run MacJanitor on the 250 Gig and then Increment the other 
Volumes does the Clean-up on the 250 get properly transferred to the 
other volumes?

I do leave them booted all night in hope that the Cron tasks will 
clean them. But not too sure about all that.
HTH,
ErnieG

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