On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Kris Tilford <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> On Apr 21, 2009, at 2:06 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
>
> > Generally speaking, the ONLY times actually defragging is valuable
> > these days is when you have lots of file additions and deletions near
> > the capacity of the drive.
>
> My only long term usage Windows computer, a 350MHz P2 PC, has a 40GB
> HD that was 90% full and almost completely fragmented  (90%+
> fragmented files, and super slow). Without thinking, I started the
> Defragment Utility and it took forever to complete, several hours. I
> found two or three large files to delete, bumping the free space up to
> 28% now.
>
> I reran the Defragment utility, and to my surprise the HD was still
> mostly fragmented. After completing a 2nd time, I looked again, and it
> was STILL mostly fragmented. I've now run the Defragment utility about
> 8 times in a row, and the HD is STILL about 50% fragmented. Each cycle
> is only gaining me a single digit increase in the percentage
> fragmentation.
>
> I've never defragmented my Mac, and I've never owned a Mac as slow as
> my completely fragmented PC, which is nearly unusable. Its main usage
> is to boot DOS or Windows to run firmware update programs for hardware
> that requires a PC to update the firmware. I think Bruce is right,
> Macs don't seem to benefit much from defragmenting. I don't have
> enough experience with Windows to know, but so far my experience is
> typical Windows frustration with 24 hours of defragmentation still
> ongoing. We'll see... I'm not holding my breath.
>
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On the list I mentioned the Windows list moderator there a proclaimed that
listers should no longer advocate defragging for Windows!!!!  God if there
was ever an OS that had a problems with fragging! Sheesh!

I have Vista and XP machines ( cannot afford a Mac only studio so gimmee a
break) now and find the MS defraggers very inefficient, So I have found some
third party utilities that work better. But still cannot get the magic
graphic analyses that Disk Warrior has provided on Mac OS.

I see now they are alos saying registry cleaners for Windows are harmful!
So are they saying it is better to struggle with a system working under a
load of fertilizer?
This goes very much against the grain of experience.

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