This thread is .... bugging me.

Let's be clear here.  Apple's licensing is VERY specific.
<http://www.apple.com/legal/sla/>

At 12:03 PM -0400 5/11/09, Mac G4 wrote:
>then how do places like powermax.com and the like sell all these 
>used machines with no discs?

The physical media is just a part, like any other component in the 
system.  There is no legal requirement that anyone ever sell you any 
used product that's 100% complete.  It would be nice if resellers 
included it.  And they could easily - as they're available from 
Apple.  But *shrug*.

>  > Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 18:58:35 +0300
>  > Subject: Re: New to Mac - Just purchased used G4
>  > From: [email protected]
>  >
>>  You may barrow and install 10.2 and 9.2.2 without any license issue
>>  from a friend or a copy CD.

NO.  You may NOT borrow.

The license says:
3. Transfer. You may not rent, lease, lend, redistribute or 
sublicense the Apple Software.

Operative words there:  NOT and LEND.

>  > 2009/5/11 Baha Ata <[email protected]>:
>>  > I mean, what the computer had when its produced as system is legal for
>  > > Apple. Some folks misunderstood it. Other versions need license.

Poor english aside, correct.  Every Mac includes a NON-TRANSFERRABLE 
license for its ORIGINAL software.  When you upgrade the software, 
you are buying a NEW license that IS transferrable.  But still, the 
ORIGINAL license stays with the hardware.

>  > >>> On May 8, 2009, at 6:09 PM, Baha Ata wrote:
>  > >>>> rapdishare.com :) license look up apple retail stores... you may
>>  >>>> declare your copy of orjinal system.. what is the production system
>>  >>>> from Apple too... but rapidshare is ok...

NO.  The uploader violated the license - remember that whole NOT and 
LEND thing?  Add to that NOT and REDISTRIBUTE.  I would also make the 
case that RapidShare should be held liable, since they're making 
money thru ad revenue.

Bruce said, about Baha Ata's text:
>  > >>> The above is a complete load of codswallop. Do NOT rely on this
>  > >>> person's advice.

Exactly.

>  > >>> Purchasing a used copy of software is legal, and is the way to get
>>  >>> older Mac OSes.

AS LONG as it's not the media that came WITH the Mac.  That's the 
copy that's NON-TRANSFERRABLE.  It has to stay with the hardware.

- Dan.
-- 
- Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth

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