On Jan 21, 2010, at 12:08 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote:

> Hello fellows of the G-Group!
> 
> I was just thinking about the future. I've just made an old G3 B&W working 
> again (it was wasting space and picking up dust for about two years or more) 
> and it is now in my office. I've installed Tiger and it is just okay working 
> with it, in other words: it is slow.
> 
> Where was I? Ah, thinking about the future...
> Apparently Apple has finally dropped all support for Tiger. That was 
> forseeable, it doesn't come as a surprise.
> 
> I am wondering: I read so many postings here about people buying or working 
> with Power Macs and G3/G4-Laptops. As operating system you're all running Mac 
> OS X, some are still on Mac OS (which I call "Classic", because I've joined 
> the Mac world two years ago so the term seems fit to me).
> 
> But why? (Why Power Macs _and_ why Mac OS X?)
> 
> All newer software will be for Mac OS X/Intel very soon. Some of you may be 
> using Leopard already, but it is now also just a question of time when it 
> will 
> be dropped as well. And this is dropping PowerPC support alltogether.
> 
> If Apple does as they always do, Leopard support will be dropped with the 
> release of the successor of Snow Leopard. Since Snow Leopard is already 6 
> months out, PowerPC users are safe for another two years or so. But that will 
> be it. Dead for good. No more. The end.
> 
> So why bother with the G3-G5 anyhow?
> 
> 
> On the other hand you can all convert to Linux. Linux was and will be running 
> on PowerPC for at least another decade (-- my personal opinion). So if Mac OS 
> X is now longer an option, you can always go the Linux way. But as I think of 
> it, you will all be very unhappy with Linux. Mac OS X is really the best when 
> it comes to being user friendly and easy to use for everyone (beginners but 
> also experts; and geeks off course).
> 
> 
> I'm now in this situation. My G3 B&W runs Tiger. I use it in my office for 
> writing documents (Word 2004, OpenOffice.org Writer 3.1.1 and Bean), for 
> making spreadsheet calculations (Excel 2004 and OpenOffice.org Calc 3.1.1) 
> _and_ for surfing in the world wide web. And the last part is the problem. 
> With Tiger no longer being supported the recently discovered security flaws 
> are no longer being fixed. Surfing the internet will become more dangerous.
> 
> Newer browsers will be (Snow)Leopard-only. Tiger support will be dropped in 
> the forseeable future. Using old browsers (with ahellofalot unfixed security 
> flaws not yet discovered) will also make the situation worse. (Like running 
> Panther and being bound to use Firefox version 2.0, which is not a good idea 
> if you ask me.)
> 
> 
> So: why bother with Gs?
> 
> I've read, I think it was the Geekbench homepage, that the switch to Intel 
> was 
> a boost in performance to the Mac world. And I agree. Intel Macs are just... 
> well, Macs! It doesn't make a difference if the hardware is PowerPC or Intel 
> x86 -- as long as the operating system doesn't show any difference at all -- 
> which it doesn't. Work on an Intel Mac and you won't notice anything, except 
> that it is faster than any Power Mac you've ever used. Period.
> 
> 
> To clarify one thing: I'm only having Power Macs standing around at home and 
> the one in my office. I got them as presents since they were no longer used 
> in 
> the company of a friend. So he thought I could use them still, which I do by 
> the way. Just one I bought myself: a Late 2005 G5 with 2.0 GHz Dual-Core. It 
> is nice, but really Leopard isn't using all its power (like 64-bit).
> 
> _But_ my perspective was always to run Linux on it, just like I did -and do- 
> with all my x86-PCs. So for me it was mainly a new experience and to see if I 
> could manage a difference hardware architecture with Linux.
> 
> I've also entered the world of Mac OS X -- which is a great OS by the way -- 
> and got stuck with using Tiger daily on my G3 B&W. I love it. Something 
> different for a change.
> 
> 
> So, G-Group: Why are you (still) PowerPC-based Mac users?
> 
> Cheers,
> Andreas  aka  Mac User #330250 (and: Linux User #330250, Windows User #330250)


What makes you think just because Apple drops support for PPCs and OX 10.411 
and 10.5.8 that all of a sudden every thing will cease to work? I still run my 
QuickBooks 2007, AppleWorks 6
and a host of other stuff My G3 iMacs at my shop and the same programs on my 
G5s and MBPs at the house.

 Apple didn't plant a bomb in theses boxes to go off at will like Windoze does
. 
 I have some very expensive CAD software that only will run on OS9 believe it 
or not. I need that stuff every day. A lot of us don't need Apple to support 
our machines anyway there's a lot of stuff out there for a long long time.

But that's just me.

John Carmonne
Yorba Linda USA



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