On Feb 11, 2010, at 4:25 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote:

Now I see that this hack will no longer work with Tiger 10.4.3 and newer.
Well, I'm using 10.4.11 -- so it won't work?

No, it works fine with 10.4.11. It didn't work ONLY with 10.4.3. After you use PCI Extreme you can check it using Quartz Extreme Check. It should also show up in System Profiler as "supported". Another easy way to check is the screensaver Flurry which is smooth and beautiful if QE works, and slow and painful if it doesn't work.

Is there a gain in speed?

Depends upon what you're using. For non-QE things there is little change. For QE things the difference is giant. For example, Google Earth simply won't work without QE.

Is there any advantage at all?

Yes, and some are giant. Scrolling speed of large complex windows is one giant advantage. Without QE it will scroll jerky and slow; with QE it will scroll smooth and fast.

I don't want to make my Mac OS X installation unusable by experimenting too much. The G3 serves me well at work, so I don't have the time to reinstall it
all just because I make weird things with it.

In my experience PCI Extreme doesn't ever cause problems that would require you to reinstall a System, or even not be able to boot. It either works or it doesn't. If it doesn't, it's more likely that you've done something wrong, or perhaps your video card doesn't have up-to-date firmware.

The things to remember:

1) you can't mix non-QE video cards with QE cards. For example, no Rage & Radeon in the same Mac at the same time. The thing you said earlier, about BOTH an AGP & PCI together is also wrong, they work fine together as long as BOTH have QE enabled. If you DON'T use PCI Extreme to enable the PCI card, you lose the QE on the supported AGP card also.

2) remember on the B&W & Yikes to keep the video card in the special video PCI slot which has twice the bandwidth of the other PCI slots. On a normal PCI slot the best speed you can obtain is the equivalent of 1/2 AGP, but with the special 66MHz slot you can get 1xAGP speed which is fine for QE.

3) check that firmware on your video card first, and update before if necessary.


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