At 21:00 -0800 2/14/10, Clark Martin wrote:
>On 2/14/10 8:14 PM, Bill Christensen wrote:
>> At 10:07 AM -0700 2/9/10, Bruce Johnson wrote:
>>>
>>> If the river is too big (high amperage), the water wheel will work
>>> just fine, because it'll only use the amount of water that fits in the
>>> paddles...the rest of the river flows on by.
>>
>> Ok, if the "rest of the river flows on by", does that mean that even if
>> your end use device is drawing .9 amps, the wall wart 'river' is still
>> going to draw 1.2 or 1.5 or whatever amp rating it has, turning the
>> 'excess' to more heat and a slightly higher electric bill?
>>
>> Or is the metaphor breaking down here?
>
>Not exactly.
>
>The components in a wall wart have a linear response (at least idealized 
>components would), if you reduce the current draw by half, the current going 
>in is reduced by half.
>
>The parts are however not ideal but real.  That means that the transformer in 
>particular isn't linear.  In particular, smaller transformers tend to more 
>quiescent power as a percentage of the total power drawn.  Quiescent power is 
>the power the transformer draws with no load.

Methinks the metaphor is a bit mis-stated.

The hydraulic analogy, as taught in a first course in electrical engineering, 
would replace the "river" with the "pipe" that is connected to a large 
reservoir.

The device using the current is analogous to a water valve with a constant flow 
rate typical of newer shower heads. The water that's not used never leaves the 
reservoir but it's still limited by the resistance to flow caused by the pipe.  
It doesn't "flow on by".

And modern DC wall-warts, now required in California, typically do not start 
with a transformer. They are high frequency converters that use a much smaller 
and more efficient transformer after they convert 60 Hz power to something well 
above 100 kHz.. Those things are smart enough not to draw current, "quiescent 
power", from the power mains unless that valve between it and the user is open.

And. . . Those new-fangled devices typically draw power from the lines in short 
pulses 120 times per second. That's called harmonic distortion which is illegal 
in Europe for larger units like ATX power converters in a desktop computer. 
We'll hear more about that in a while when California gets a bit brighter shade 
of green.
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