On Feb 16, 2010, at 4:18 PM, John Carmonne wrote: > > Well I Checked the ram and it's 2 of the 6 sticks I bought from OWC. But I'll > check as you said when I get to the AHT step. > "Yes Dan the Garage door is open" > > I did the open firmware reset, then booted 9.2.2 but disk first aid crashes > after about 8 mins.
Then you've got what I suggested earlier, software that's FUBAR, or directory corruption. But I suggested to run the check for bad sectors on the hard drive part of Disk Utility in OS 9.2.2, not Disk First Aid. If you run Disk First Aid while booted into OS 9.2.2 via CD, you'll always get lots of errors if OS X also is loaded onto the hard drive due to operating system differences. The directory structure of OS X cannot be fixed by OS 9's Disk First Aid, and vice versa. > > So I booted 10.4 retail disk via USB and used Disk Utility from Tiger on the > HDD I did permission repair first. It said it did a lot of repair here. > " the tires are round and black" I hope you were doing Permission Repair on a 10.4 installation. Permission Repair isn't going to undo anything messed up by running OS 9's Disk First Aid on a dual boot OS 9/OS X volume. But did you run Disk Repair too? > > Then verify reported OK, and finally repair reported no repairs necessary, > just to do every thing. DiskWarrior does a lot better and more thorough job of repairing directory issues on an OS X volume, in my experience. But it sounds as if you should have run "Repair Disk" instead of "Repair Disk Permissions." > > > > I booted AHT the RAM shows DIMM0/j13 512 DIMM0/j14 512 , > Apple profiler reports both to be SDRAM PC133-322 > "the glow plugs are good" Good. Sounds as if you've got matching RAM sticks. Were the CL2 and CL3 (latency) numbers the same too? That's a critical part of the "matched pair" equation. > > The extended AHT reported everything passed. > > > "the tank's full" That's usually a pretty good sign that all the basic hardware is OK, but it's not a completely reliable clean bill of health, just a positive indicator. The hard drive check, for instance, is merely just that, a check. It's not a complete and thorough scan of every sector for bad reads/writes as is done by Disk Utility or a third party utility such as Drive Genius 2. > So I assume If I boot a powered 3.5" HDD via Firewire and it runs properly > that's still not really a good test because the internal drive is on a > different Bus?? Yep. If the internal hard drive passed the OS 9.2 Disk Utility test for bad sectors, that's a pretty good sign the drive is in good physical health. But if you've got OS X on that volume, as noted above, you easily could have caused major issues by running OS 9's Disk First Aid. Getting the iMac to run "properly" off an external hard drive proves that the machine is capable of running OK, but it does not absolve the internal hard drive hardware or software of blame. However, if you replace the internal hard drive with one that ran good when it was in an external case, then you've isolated the problem to the original internal hard drive's hardware and/or installed software. > > Now if the display shimmering issue is a CRT is this something I can do? I > know some will say I can buy the whole machine for a few bucks, but it's not > this serial #. Don't know where this came from, or even what you're trying to say. Thought we were talking about slow system performance, not video issues. One thing at a time. Test the hard drive for bad sectors using OS 9's Disk Utility while booted from an install CD. If it passes, then wipe/initialize the hard drive and install OS 9, then do all the Apple Software Updates. Make sure there's no missing Firmware Update behind your running and video issues. Your current firmware version should be 4.19f1 or something like that, as shown in OS 9's Apple System Profiler. Software Update in OS 9 will tell you if you need to do a firmware update, but that firmware update can only be done while booted into OS 9. Once your G3 iMac is running fine in OS 9.2.2, then install OS X. HTH, Jim Scott -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
