On Feb 16, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Jim Scott wrote: > > On Feb 16, 2010, at 4:18 PM, John Carmonne wrote: >> >> Well I Checked the ram and it's 2 of the 6 sticks I bought from OWC. But >> I'll check as you said when I get to the AHT step. >> "Yes Dan the Garage door is open" >> >> I did the open firmware reset, then booted 9.2.2 but disk first aid crashes >> after about 8 mins. > > Then you've got what I suggested earlier, software that's FUBAR, or directory > corruption. But I suggested to run the check for bad sectors on the hard > drive part of Disk Utility in OS 9.2.2, not Disk First Aid. If you run Disk > First Aid while booted into OS 9.2.2 via CD, you'll always get lots of errors > if OS X also is loaded onto the hard drive due to operating system > differences. The directory structure of OS X cannot be fixed by OS 9's Disk > First Aid, and vice versa.
I can't seem to find Disk Utility on my OS9 startup disk? That's why I ran FirstAid > >> >> So I booted 10.4 retail disk via USB and used Disk Utility from Tiger on >> the HDD I did permission repair first. It said it did a lot of repair here. >> " the tires are round and black" > > I hope you were doing Permission Repair on a 10.4 installation. Permission > Repair isn't going to undo anything messed up by running OS 9's Disk First > Aid on a dual boot OS 9/OS X volume. But did you run Disk Repair too? Yes I booted an external Tiger drive to repair permissions and repair disk. >> >> Then verify reported OK, and finally repair reported no repairs necessary, >> just to do every thing. > > DiskWarrior does a lot better and more thorough job of repairing directory > issues on an OS X volume, in my experience. But it sounds as if you should > have run "Repair Disk" instead of "Repair Disk Permissions." > I have DiskWarrior I can run it also if you want. >> >> >> I booted AHT the RAM shows DIMM0/j13 512 DIMM0/j14 512 , >> Apple profiler reports both to be SDRAM PC133-322 >> "the glow plugs are good" > > Good. Sounds as if you've got matching RAM sticks. Were the CL2 and CL3 > (latency) numbers the same too? That's a critical part of the "matched pair" > equation. > The only numbers I have are those mentioned on my previous statement. >> >> The extended AHT reported everything passed. >> >> >> "the tank's full" > > That's usually a pretty good sign that all the basic hardware is OK, but it's > not a completely reliable clean bill of health, just a positive indicator. > The hard drive check, for instance, is merely just that, a check. It's not a > complete and thorough scan of every sector for bad reads/writes as is done by > Disk Utility or a third party utility such as Drive Genius 2. > I have Drive genius 2 also I'll run that too. > >> So I assume If I boot a powered 3.5" HDD via Firewire and it runs properly >> that's still not really a good test because the internal drive is on a >> different Bus?? > > Yep. If the internal hard drive passed the OS 9.2 Disk Utility test for bad > sectors, that's a pretty good sign the drive is in good physical health. But > if you've got OS X on that volume, as noted above, you easily could have > caused major issues by running OS 9's Disk First Aid. Getting the iMac to run > "properly" off an external hard drive proves that the machine is capable of > running OK, but it does not absolve the internal hard drive hardware or > software of blame. However, if you replace the internal hard drive with one > that ran good when it was in an external case, then you've isolated the > problem to the original internal hard drive's hardware and/or installed > software. > >> >> Now if the display shimmering issue is a CRT is this something I can do? I >> know some will say I can buy the whole machine for a few bucks, but it's not >> this serial #. > > Don't know where this came from, or even what you're trying to say. Thought > we were talking about slow system performance, not video issues. > Sorry about that I thought I mentioned the display shimmer in the original post. It shimmers ever so slightly but is kinda annoying> > One thing at a time. Test the hard drive for bad sectors using OS 9's Disk > Utility while booted from an install CD. If it passes, then wipe/initialize > the hard drive and install OS 9, then do all the Apple Software Updates. Make > sure there's no missing Firmware Update behind your running and video issues. > Your current firmware version should be 4.19f1 or something like that, as > shown in OS 9's Apple System Profiler. Software Update in OS 9 will tell you > if you need to do a firmware update, but that firmware update can only be > done while booted into OS 9. Once your G3 iMac is running fine in OS 9.2.2, > then install OS X. > > HTH, > > Jim Scott BTW I noticed in one of your previous posts a site for serial number info so I found out the machine is a Jan 2003 Snow I got the machine from my son. Thanks for that info. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
