On Mar 4, 7:34 pm, Clark Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

> We had two 4MVs that lasted for 10+ years with moderately heavy use.
>
> Additionally IIRC for postscript you needed more than the base memory
> (8Mb?).

For those who aren't familiar with it, the 4MV is the printer in HP's
family of Laserjet 4s which prints on ledger sized (11 X 17) paper.
They're very nice.  They also have an option for an internal hard
drive.  However, there is no duplex option available for the 4MV as
there is for the 4M, 4M Plus, etc.  The Laserjet 4 family used
standard 72 pin SIMMs for memory expansion, although I think the PID
pins may have been required.

HP claimed that one needed to use only HP brand memory, but I remember
purchasing a...darn, memory fault, their expensive desktop ink jet
printer at the time.  Something like Paintjet 300XL maybe?   Anyway,
the HP memory we purchased for it did not work at all.  Some other
SIMMs we had laying around worked perfectly.  Gave me a giggle at the
time since they were always so adamant about buying their several
times more expensive memory.

> > While it's true that color laser printers have four toner cartridges
> > and it is expensive to replace all four, if you primarily print in
> > black, then you only need to replace the black cartridge frequently.
> > So, assuming similarly priced toner cartridges, the color laser is no
> > more expensive to operate for simple black printing.
>
> Watch the consumables.  Even the black toner carts for color printers
> can be pricey.

Yes, my phrase, "assuming similarly priced toner cartridges" is,
perhaps, under-emphasized.  Most of the nice color laser printers I've
looked at seem to charge about $80 for the black cartridge.  The MRP
on toner cartridges for black-only laser printers is usually in that
ball park, but with discounts and such, one can often pay less, at
least after the printer has been on the market a while.
Remanufactured cartridges for my 2100 are down around $30 - $40 now.
Still, when it runs out of toner next time, I'm not sure it will be
worth keeping it, when I could print on the C170N at a slightly higher
cost.


Jeff Walther

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