On 7/17/10 10:18 PM, Dan wrote: > [HTML stripped, as necessary] *snip*
> Remember that the purpose of these LEM mailing lists is TECHNICAL > SUPPORT, not pretty animated icon cutsie email chatty please pass the > nail polish. That's a good one Dan, I'll have to remember that one. > I don't speak for the other techies on these lists... but wading thru > HTML-based emails, just like TOP POSTED and UNTRIMMED messages, is a > WASTE of my time. My time is very limited. I can view a couple of > pretty emails, and get lost in all the formatting added by each replier, > and botched along the way... Or I can quickly go thru whole threads of > well-formatted plain text - and provide technical answers. Remember the > part about the purpose of these lists???? As well as headache inducing, foaming at the mouth inducing, and so on. > Frankly, if you're dying to send pretty messages then go find a service > that's Forum based. Myself, I'll continue to hit cmd-D as soon as I > open a gaudy POS HTML email on these groups. *nods* And I might add the space needed to store this 'stuff'. Dan touched on the subject with "As for your mootness... when I'm on a metered connection, I'm paying per kilobyte. How 'bout if I bill you each time you send 1 KB of text in a 4 KB message?". Somewhere out there, the list is being archived and the mail servers are tossing the packets around to everyone else while storing it locally, at least temporary. That drive space could probably be used for more important stuff than HTML in email that bloats up the size of said email. Somewhere I had a printout of an email generated by one of the worst offenders out there, microsoft outlook. For about a line of actual text, the formatting code that send it out bloated it up to almost two pages of hard copy. Did you note that I said /about/ a line? It wasn't even a full 80 characters. And before anyone pulls out the 'drives are cheap' counterpoint, yes, they are... for /consumer grade/ drives. Ever priced a /real/ enterprise grade drive for a typical server? Lets take a quick look at the current price leader for servers... Dell. Searching the Dell website for poweredge hard drive, one of the first hits is a "300 GB 15,000 RPM SAS Hard Drive for Dell PowerEdge Servers". The low-low price for this (smallish drive by todays consumer level drive standards) has a "Starting Price" of $567.99 US Dollars, and the description for said drive does not show if it comes with the drive caddy needed to use it in a typical rack mount server (that's usually another 30 to 50 dollars more, on the low end). And 300 gig is a good sized drive for enterprise grade drives. Most of, oh, say Seagate's line of drives, max out at 600 gig, with 2 TB being the new top end. Hitachi and Western Digital appear to offer the larger sizes in one or two more lines than Seagate, but the overall capacity of the drives is about the same. Seagate's 2 TB enterprise hard drive (7200 RPM, 16 meg buffer, SAS interface) has a price, per google shopper, starting at $326, which appears to be the average price for a drive of that size (don't forget, I'm not including the price of the drive caddies that are needed to even use the things in a server). So no, storage is not exactly cheap for enterprise systems. It's cheaper than it used to be, but the cost to capacity ratio is no where near what it is for consumer level kit. Do the HTML proponents want to shell out the several hundred dollars for a new drive everytime mail storage space is expanded because 'most people' are using HTML based email clients and sending it out that way (and it happens more often than most people think, especially with the way 'net usage is increasing)? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
