On Nov 10, 2010, at 1:31 AM, MichaelP wrote:


"Yes, it's hijacked. He hijacked "PowerMac G3 AIO 'snapping/ popping'" thread.
"

I'm sensitive to and I object strongly to use of the word hijack to refer to refer to posting an original request for friendly help and info from exoerts if the request is written in some un-obvious way to contain hidden reference to an existing thread -

The word hijack was only used because you posted an original request for help using the Reply feature of your mail client instead of composing a New message. Your mail client sets headers indicating to Tina's mail client that your message is part of the same thread (even though the Subject has changed).

For an example of why this is problematic, suppose I look at my new G- list messages. I decide that, say, 'Initializing hard drive' doesn't look interesting to me, so I click, hit Command-Shift-K (to select the thread), and Delete. Now I've just deleted that thread *and* the original one, and I might not even be aware of it.

Asking for help id not stealing, it is not swindling and it does not involve extortion.

You're correct; it's none of those things.

If what I do to post my request causes problems it's the auto- response system which needs modifying.

This has nothing to do with auto-responders, just regular mail user agents.

I've been using and owning info listserves for almost 20 years
and never have I learned that "hijacking is bad netiquette, and
highly frowned upon" or that "Whenever you're starting a new Subject, you need to start with a "New Mail" and not a "Reply" or "Forward" or heaven's
forbid a "Reply All""

Well, now you know.

Indeed, while I'm aware of the existence of headers this is the first listerve in which I'm told that old subjects are kept in invariant form.

To the contrary, you are free (and encouraged) to change the Subject field as the conversation morphs over time -- provided it's the same conversation. If you're starting a new conversation, you should start a new thread.

If that's the way the owner sets up a lkistserve, so be it, But please choos a less rude word to describe
the process.

Personally, I decline your request in general -- though I'll probably make a point not to use the term in reference to you.

I appreciate the willingness of subscribers to share knowledge, But when I ask for help , to be told that my request is tantamount to stealing or extortion is just too much

Nobody is accusing you of criminal behavior -- merely a breach of netiquette. And the word we use for this particular faux pas is 'hijacking'.

Just remember that it's not personal.

Josh


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