At 10:06 AM -0700 2/23/2011, Bruce Johnson wrote:

Sorry to continue the meta-discussion, but I'd really like to add my 2 cents.

Um, yea.  My 2 cents also: what Bruce said.

If I were king of the forest, all these myriad LEM lists would be reduced to a handful:

68K Macs (both laptop and desktops, because these are waaay obsolete by now.)
OldWorld Macs (PowerPC old world machines, both laptops and desktops as above.) PowerPC desktops (covering pci-based PowerMacs from the iMac and beige 60x and G3 models up through the G5 models, both PowerMac and iMac.)
PowerPC laptops (covering all New World Powerbooks and iBooks)
Intel desktops (covering all intel-based desktop systems Mac Pros and iMacs)
Intel laptops (covering all models of MacBook.)
LEMSwap (of course!)

AND make sure the lists can be searched all at once! Right now, they can't be because even their names have nothing in common.

With fewer groups, we'd get more subscribers, and more eyeballs, on the problems. We'd have less duplication, and better answers for everyone.

And fewer people simply leaving because they didn't get an answer or a good answer from one of the micro groups.

I think that it would be far simpler to manage from the list nanny standpoint (you could have more nannies on each list) and make it a lot easier for folks to find the correct groups to join. (note, this is also a major reason many web forums are failing at this kind of support because there are so damn many of them at any given site. Even Apple's own support forums are probne to this problem.)

At 11:22 AM -0600 2/23/2011, James E. Therrault wrote:
1. 68K of all flavors
2. Pre "G" Power Macs of all flavors
3. "G" Power Macs of all flavors
4. Intel Macs of all flavors
5. Software group maybe

Too many groups, I think.

1.  LEM Mac Hardware
2.  LEM Mac Software
3.  LEM Swap
4.  LEM Everything Else (chatting and such)

...and to be honest I'm iffy about 1 & 2; thinking that should just be one big happy froup.

At 5:36 PM +0000 2/23/2011, Jonathan Smith wrote:
I am subscribed to 8 and I am finding it an administrative nightmare organising them in a way that keeps me up to date but doesn't fill my inbox up. I haven't decided on the best approach as yet.

I'm subscribed to them all. IMO the best way to handle them is to just not try to sort them, other than by subject. They're so intermixed anyway, creating or maintaining any segregation in your mail client just wastes time and inhibits searching. I filter all the LEM stuff en-mass into one mailbox, and the Swap stuff in another. Then I tackle it top down. Done.

Is 'forum' a dirty word in LEM land?

IMO, it's a dirty word period, on par with "top posting". Forum = web based thing for newbies that are too delicate to handle real email, designed to be pretty, not efficient. I can blow thru 200 emails in the time it takes me deal with a couple forum postings. (Insert standard obligatory rant about how top posting slows down the whole process).

FWIW,
- Dan.
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