Hi Bjorn,
Thanks for caring :)

R/Bioc dependencies are determined by the target R package.
This realisation made me change tool factory 2 in the test toolshed so it
now allows R (or perl or python - not bash!) dependency package_r_
selection. It still allows the local system R but that's not recommended
for anything reproducible.
The generated tool will always use that R and so I can generate an RBioC
dependency generator using that script
https://wiki.galaxyproject.org/SetUpREnvironment for any available toolshed
package_r_
Feedback always appreciated...


On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 9:25 PM, Björn Grüning <bjoern.gruen...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Ross,
>
> Am 13.01.2015 um 00:13 schrieb Ross:
> > Hi  Björn,
> > I'm a bit old fashioned and think I prefer a proper Galaxy tool rather
> than
> > a notebook :)
>
> :)
>
> > So I've set up a temporary demonstration/test site of a
> > toolfactory generated tool that does what I think I need - can some kind
> > soul please test it and let me know how it goes ? If it's useful, it
> needs
> > to be adjusted to depend on whatever version of package_R you want to
> work
> > with - currently just uses the system R for demonstration purposes.
> >
> > I used the toolfactory2 (main toolshed) (which now allows any number of
> > (optionally non editable) parameters!!!) to wrap the script shown at the
> > bottom of https://wiki.galaxyproject.org/SetUpREnvironment. There are
> > currently three parameters - the names of the R/BioC packages from
> > sessionInfo(), the local directory where all the tarballs should be
> stowed
> > and the XML output prefix to prepend to each row of the generated XML
> > stanza for tool_dependencies.xml
> >
> > The resulting toolshed tarball was uploaded to a local toolshed and then
> > installed to produce a new tool in the "tool generators" section
> > - r_bioc_depgen Generate dependencies for R/BioC packages
> >
> > If you import the history at http://130.56.252.21/history/list_published
> > you will see the toolfactory job (#1,#2,#3) - rerunning will show how the
> > parameters are defined - fugly but it does work.
> > After generating/uploading/installing the new tool, outputs from a test
> run
> > are in #4 and #5 for DESeq
>
> This is cool!
> I have to try this on a few packages!
> This could also be of interest for our GSOC idea:
>
> https://wiki.galaxyproject.org/Develop/GSOC/2015Ideas#Fostering_Bioconductor_Collaborations
>
> Thanks Ross for working on this!
> Bjoern
>
> > Comments and suggestions welcomed!
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 10:41 PM, Björn Grüning <
> bjoern.gruen...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Ross,
> >>
> >> you are absolutely right.
> >> My download_store repository is exactly for this purpose.
> >>
> >> https://github.com/bgruening/download_store
> >>
> >> If you are interested we could integrate your additional magic into the
> >> notebook.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Bjoern
> >>
> >> Am 11.01.2015 um 01:33 schrieb Ross:
> >>> Hi, Björn,
> >>> Looks pretty similar!
> >>> Aren't the links your notebook generates transient? I think if you put
> >> them
> >>> into a tool_dependencies.xml, they will fail permanently immediately
> >> after
> >>> any of the package authors updates one of the relevant svn
> repositories?
> >>>
> >>> AFAIK, it looks like the whole BioC/CRAN infrastructure is automated
> so a
> >>> link that works today like
> >>> http://cran.fhcrc.org/src/contrib/Rcpp_0.11.3.tar.gz will fail when
> Rcpp
> >>> next gets updated and Rcpp_0.11.3.tar.gz is migrated to
> >>> http://cran.fhcrc.org/src/contrib/00Archive/Rcpp/ with a replacement
> >> (eg)
> >>> http://cran.fhcrc.org/src/contrib/Rcpp_0.11.4.tar.gz appearing in the
> >>> contrib directory?
> >>>
> >>> That's why my more complex script downloads all the latest archives
> into
> >> my
> >>> local github archive repo and generates a permanent link to suit that
> >>> github repo.
> >>> We definitely need an automated solution as this is a really
> infuriating
> >>> aspect of trying to make code relying on R/BioC packages reproducible.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 11:28 PM, Björn Grüning <
> >> bjoern.gruen...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi Ross,
> >>>>
> >>>> this is great!
> >>>> Have you seen this notebook?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> http://nbviewer.ipython.org/github/bgruening/notebooks/blob/master/R/extract_all_dependencies_from_an_r_package.ipynb
> >>>>
> >>>> It tries to do the same thing. Maybe it's also worth to mention? Maybe
> >>>> we can enhance it?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Bjoern
> >>>>
> >>>> Am 08.01.2015 um 08:09 schrieb Ross:
> >>>>> This may be helpful for anyone else struggling to get complex nested
> R
> >>>>> package dependency installation from the tool shed sorted out. That
> >> whole
> >>>>> can of worms. While we have setup_r_packages, the developer still has
> >> to
> >>>>> figure out the right magical incantation and make sure the tarballs
> are
> >>>>> available.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://wiki.galaxyproject.org/SetUpREnvironment has some notes I've
> >>>>> started - contribitions welcome.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It has a more or less reusable R script to generate
> >> tool_dependencies.xml
> >>>>> boilerplate, assuming you set the constant libdir to your local git
> >>>>> repository path where those tarballs will be downloaded from.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I hope this helps someone!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Could make a tool to do this if enough developers want access to it
> >>>> without
> >>>>> the pain of managing yet another R script?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
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