It saddens me greatly to hear what has happened.  I am currently praying for
him and I feel deeply for him.  I think the only way he will be able to be
straightened out is if we all pray for him.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Thomas Ward
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 12:20 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] blaytont Forgery regarding Ivan

Hi, Raul and Liam.
When I heard the so-called trailor I was also quite offended at how it 
was done. There is no doubt trying to steel someone elses work and make 
it his own was bad enough. What is worse is I for one have been quite 
open with folks and offer my advice, pointers, and have helped get 
agdev-newbies started so we can add new developers to our comunity. 
Instead Ivan chose not to learn to be a programmer, but attempted to 
steel others work, and clame it was all his own doing.
Even more offensive was that Ivan had said he was going to give his game 
away for free at one time. If it would have really happened he not only 
would be modifying Liam's game but would be redistributing licensed 
copies of Super Liam for free which is about as bad as the Monkey 
Business business we had on blind-gamers quite some time ago.
To be frank about it I don't understand why some people like Ivan have 
to act the way they do. As a moderator I \gave him so many breaks, coach 
talks, etc to change his ways, etc and instead Ivan became inflamitory, 
continued to lie to this comunity about his game, and apparently had no 
respect for the list guidelines.
Well, I am getting down from my soapbox, and won't be discussing this 
topic again as far as I know.


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