Hi Dark,

Well, I think we should do something about it then. AS you know I am
married and I have sighted assistance pretty regularly and can get
around Google's CAPTCHA system just because of that fact. So if the
group wants to formulate a list of things we would like
addressed/fixed I'll write the proposal and send it to Google and see
what we can do about it. I'd be happy to send the same proposal to
Puppet Nightmares making them aware that there are a number of V.I.
players having troubles signing up because of their CAPTCHA system
being difficult to understand.

As for paying for help I see your point, but I also know that isn't
always practical for everyone. That is one of those things that really
comes down to someone's personal situation and circumstances. Some
people are unusually lucky and live in an apartment building or
complex where people are willing to help for free.

Although, I've found if I really want someone to help and make it fair
to offer them a small sum of cash say $5 to read my screen for a few
minutes, or to help me sort some items out etc. People are much more
willing to help when they personally get something out of it. So if
you ask them to help again they will be more willing because they are
getting paid for their assistance than simply being expected to
perform on demand when they themselves have other things to do at that
particular time.


On 4/9/13, dark <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Tom.
>
> On the issue of firefox, well fair enough, however bare in mind that for
> someone like myself who lives alone and is also ethical, sighted assistance
>
> means physically paying someone as I do my research assistant, which is why
>
> I describe it not as a viable option, particularly as lots of organizations
>
> like the Rnib hear in the Uk do little to nothing about access "because your
>
> carer can do it"
>
> As regards google, their old audio captures system worked fine on a set of
> good speakers or headphones I found, and indeed in discussing capture access
>
> to several devs I recommended it as an accessible alternative.
>
> However, that is no longer the case, and given that google do! tout this as
>
> an accessible alternative something really does need to be done. It is
> pretty obvious to me that when changing their audio captures, they never
> actually had anyone test them without reference to the images, since I've
> never actually managed to get them right, however given how hard google are
>
> to get hold of I don't even know how to bring this to their attention since
>
> the very captures that  are the problem exist on their mail contact form.
>
> This is also a stark contrast to the way google used to be. i remember in
> around 2005 needing to setup a google groups account, and they had no
> alternative captures at all. I however simply phoned their technical support
>
> line (their mail form also had a capture), and someone created me an account
>
> with a password I later changed. I was quite impressed at that level of
> access, sadly that doesn't seem the case anymore.
>
> Beware the Grue!
>
> Dark.
>

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