Re: [Audyssey] BSC Games shutting down, and reactions.

Greg Steel Sat, 20 Apr 2013 14:13:26 -0700

Hi I'm still using xp and I have blast chamber, classic Pipe and Hunter all3 installed. My mom bought them for me for my birthday back in 2008.----- Original Message -----From: "Draconis" <i...@dracoent.com>

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Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BSC Games shutting down, and reactions.




I know I said I was done, but have to address one more thing…

Seriously folks…this conversation has devolved to trying to say that the $75is wasted when Microsoft inevitably upgrades beyond the point where thegames will run In that case, why ever buy any game ever? It won't runsomeday…it's just a matter of time.

That aside, the games work through Windows 7 as far as I am aware…perhapsWindows 8. How many of you are still on Windows XP? Just because Microsoftstops supporting some of this stuff, doesn't mean you're all running out andgetting a new computer. The visually impaired community only moves on to thenext version of the OS begrudgingly, and usually long after much of themainstream world has moved on.

This is a problem that won't effect most of you for another 5 to 10 years ormore if the community's past tendencies don't change radically. Are youseriously saying that $75 is too much to pay for a decades worth ofcontinued enjoyment?

Just trying to put this thing into perspective. Saying that the $75 is"straight down the toilet" as Brian put it, if Microsoft's next Window supdate doesn't support these games, is hyperbole to the extreme. :)

On Apr 18, 2013, at 6:43 PM, Bryan Peterson <bpeterson2...@cableone.net>wrote:

The problem is I think the wording in Justin's message may have confusedmost of us, me included. But there's still te concern of what happens whenMicrosoft advances tote point that the games no longer run on neweroperating systems. That's 75 bucks straight down the toilet.

But thou must!
-----Original Message----- From: Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 4:13 PM
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Hi Josh, FWIW I also read it that way. It's one key generator, and you
use it to generate keys for 1 or all titles. It doesn't mean you are
paying over for a title or 2 which you may have purchased years ago, but
for the ability to generate keys for your own personal use.

To anyone else who is reading my message, I also think that those who
are offering to generate keys for $20 or whatever are taking advantage,
and I'm not sure how legal or ethical that really is, but it's expected
that this key generator will be pirated anyway, so I don't see why we
have to continue beating a dead horse on this topic.

Also, while I'm sure the list owners like a lively discussion about
anything game related, there are some people who see things one way, and
others on the completely opposite view of it. So, to each his/her own,
right?

PS, should I get royalties because it's my demo which is included in the
Pipe2 game? <smile>.

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Raul A. Gallegos
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On 4/18/2013 3:36 PM, Draconis wrote:

Most developers have a single key generation app that handles all thedifferent systems and generating keys for them. If you read Justin'spost, he says you are getting the key generator program, singular.


But I'm feeling like I'm the only person who actually read his post. LOL

On Apr 18, 2013, at 4:28 PM, Desiree Oudinot <turtlepowe...@gmail.com>wrote:

Why would he have to write separate keygens for each program, though?
The classic pipe and Troopanum games used the same system. There's one
down. Pipe and Troopanum2 used another one. I'm not sure what kind of
system the word games used, having never bought them, but since they
were released around the same time as the classics, I'm going to
assume, perhaps wrongly, that they used that first system. Thus, only
two keygen programs would really need to be created.
I would gladly pay for two keygens. And, I personally think that the
games and software packages should be split up, at the very least.
Some people may not want the software, or some may not want the games.
They really are two separate entities.

On 4/18/13, Draconis <i...@dracoent.com> wrote:


So, what you're saying, is you want Justin to devote time and effort to

write brand-new, individual key generators for each and every title,sell

them off piece meal, and charge full price for them?

Wow.

In the example…

Buying the individual films you want at full price would cost almosttwice

as much. You have some strange logic there. Most people prefer to spend
less. :)

On Apr 18, 2013, at 4:13 PM, "Bryan Peterson"<bpeterson2...@cableone.net>

wrote:

Or you can just buy the individual films you want once and have done.
That's the whole point.



But thou must!
-----Original Message----- From: Draconis
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 2:02 PM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] BSC Games shutting down, and reactions.

Several people are still saying they are being forced to repurchasegamesthey already own. So, let me break this down into an example that mayhelp

with those missing the point.

There are 8 Harry Potter films. If we say the average price of theseeonDVD is $20, for the sake of argument, the total cost of buying eachfilm

individually would be $160.

You've already bought films 1 and 2 on DVD for $40. But now, Warner

Brothers is offering a box set of all 8 films on DVD for theunbelievableprice of $40! That's 1/4 the cost. And let's say, you didn't likePrisoner

of Azkaban, so never really planned on buying that one.

You can buy the box set, and still come out $60 ahead, or you can beupset

because you're being made to re-purchase
the first two movies again, plus movie 3 that you didn't like.

The math is: 8 movies for $20 each is $160
Minus movie three would be $140 total for seven films you want.

Or…

$40 for the two you already bought
plus $40 for the box set.
equals $80

$80 is $60 less than $140. Win win.

The math is almost identical in this case, except I think Justin'sdeal is

actually better than the scenario above.

To me, if you're not paying anywhere near full price for anything,you'reeffectively getting the majority of the package for free. So you arenot,

in reality, being made to buy them again.


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