If you learn the menus you can do the battles I guess.  However moving around 
and using the sphere grid would be pretty much impossible.
Mike.
On Jun 25, 2013, at 2:07 PM, "Paul Lemm" <paul.l...@sky.com> wrote:

> Hi Mike,
> 
> Hope you don't mind me asking, but I used to play the final fantasy games on
> my playstation  and they are some of my favourite main stream games, but the
> ones I have played have always been very text heavy with battle menus and
> most character speech has been text to.  you said you played final fantasy x
> though , do you still play  now  and have you found it to be in anyway
> accessible?
> 
> Paul 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Mike Wassel
> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 4:11 AM
> To: Gamers Discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] games playable on consoles [was]Re: what will it
> take for this community to learn?
> 
> Yes sports games are possible. But answer me this: How do you play racing
> games?  How do you know where to turn or if you're going the wrong way?
> Rockband I understand, it's a great game and I like playing it.  I guess my
> point is that we can't play more of the current things if that makes sense.
> Like COD or Resident Evil.  That's why I like playing games like Final
> Fantasy X, Kingdom Hearts and Mass Effect (to a degree).  I guess you could
> play third person shooters if you do what I do and use a lock-on system or
> use sound cues which is how I play them, ut FPS's are, I think, out
> completely.  I'm not trying to make it sound like totals can't, I'm really
> just curious.
> Mike.
> 
> On Jun 24, 2013, at 11:00 PM, lenron brown <lenro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> very true I love racing games and many others on my x box 360 it 
>> sometimes just takes practice
>> 
>> On 6/24/13, Clement Chou <chou.clem...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Let's just say that as a total we've been able to play more games 
>>> than most
>>> 
>>> people expect... even my friends with low vision. Fighting games are 
>>> probaqbly boring only because you play against the computer... it's 
>>> much more stimulating to play against humans and delve into the meet 
>>> of the game
>>> 
>>> which is usually more mental. Street Fighter IV, for example, has 
>>> pretty simple mechanics. But those mechanics build into longer combos 
>>> and strategy
>>> 
>>> that can't be found in any other genre. But totals can play the 
>>> majority of
>>> 
>>> hack n slashes to at least a certain degree. Many people are able to 
>>> play Ninja gaiden 3 without issue and are already close to beating 
>>> the game, and
>>> 
>>> games such as Rock Band and some sports games are also playable. But 
>>> that's
>>> 
>>> a whole other topic. lol
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Mike Wassel" <blindndanger...@aim.com>
>>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 3:55 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] what will it take for this community to learn?
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> I am not about to read 40 messages, so I will just comment on this 
>>>> first one.  I agree with Thomas on his points.  While I don't play 
>>>> many audio games mainly because I don't care for the content when I 
>>>> have other games on my ps2/ps3 that I play more, I see it all the 
>>>> time with this community that people aren't happy, that they bitch 
>>>> and moan about keys/cracks  of games all the time after a game is 
>>>> released, and even after it's been released.  However, you can't put 
>>>> the blind community at 100% fault.  The same thing goes on with 
>>>> sighted gamers.  But since we are a relatively smaller community it 
>>>> hits a lot harder.  If you don't have a thick skin and
>>>> 
>>>> can just let comments roll off, you're going to quit.  This is why I 
>>>> don't
>>>> 
>>>> develop.  One reason is because I don't have the time to do it, the 
>>>> other reason is if  I did and started to get a whole lot of 
>>>> complaints, I know I'd explode on somebody.
>>>> I've said it before.  These debs go through a lot of work to create 
>>>> a game
>>>> 
>>>> for everyone to enjoy.  It takes a while to code and find bugs and 
>>>> get rid
>>>> 
>>>> of them.  I'm glad Jeremy has not quit his work because right now, 
>>>> he's the only one that is making modern games for us.  If he wasn't 
>>>> here, I doubt that TRTR would've been made or any of the other games 
>>>> that are starting to come out.  The same thing happened with 
>>>> Entombed.  That was the closest that I've ever seen an audio game 
>>>> come to final fantasy.  I'd
>>>> 
>>>> like to see more like that, however I know that that starts to get 
>>>> harder
>>>> 
>>>> because with more complex things you want happening, the more code 
>>>> you need to put in/the more time you need to put into the game.
>>>> Another person who has been working with this for a while is Dentin.  
>>>> He's
>>>> 
>>>> actually put in code for us to make Alter better and easier to play.  
>>>> Not
>>>> 
>>>> only does he put up with sighted people bitching at him because 
>>>> equipment
>>>> 
>>>> gets dented or things are really hard, but he's putting up with the 
>>>> blind
>>>> 
>>>> community complaining when mush-z doesn't work.  Hopefully most of 
>>>> those messages get sent to the right channel but who knows.
>>>> I don't know if I'll read this thread after I send this message.  
>>>> But I'll
>>>> 
>>>> repeat what I said at the beginning of this reply.  While we are a 
>>>> smaller
>>>> 
>>>> community, we can not put all the blame on the blind people.  This 
>>>> kind of
>>>> 
>>>> thing happens on a much larger scale with the sighted players.  
>>>> However, if we keep this up pretty soon you're going to have no one 
>>>> left who wants
>>>> 
>>>> to make games for the blind and then you all will start complaining 
>>>> about
>>>> 
>>>> how you all have nothing that matches up with what todays consoles have.
>>>> And whose fault will that be but your own?  Not everyone can play 
>>>> todays games on the ps3 or Xbox360.  I know I'm having trouble with 
>>>> the little amount of vision that I have.  It's almost impossible for 
>>>> me to play anything new that comes out because the print is to small 
>>>> for me to read or I can't see what is on the screen.  I know it's 
>>>> way harder if not completely impossible for totals to play anything 
>>>> but fighting games which
>>>> 
>>>> I can not stand whatsoever.  They just bore me after about 15 
>>>> minutes.  As
>>>> 
>>>> I said, keep it up and see what happens.
>>>> Mike.
>>> 
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