I am not about to read 40 messages, so I will just comment on this first one.  
I agree with Thomas on his points.  While I don't play many audio games mainly 
because I don't care for the content when I have other games on my ps2/ps3 that 
I play more, I see it all the time with this community that people aren't 
happy, that they bitch and moan about keys/cracks  of games all the time after 
a game is released, and even after it's been released.  However, you can't put 
the blind community at 100% fault.  The same thing goes on with sighted gamers. 
 But since we are a relatively smaller community it hits a lot harder.  If you 
don't have a thick skin and can just let comments roll off, you're going to 
quit.  This is why I don't develop.  One reason is because I don't have the 
time to do it, the other reason is if  I did and started to get a whole lot of 
complaints, I know I'd explode on somebody.
I've said it before.  These debs go through a lot of work to create a game for 
everyone to enjoy.  It takes a while to code and find bugs and get rid of them. 
 I'm glad Jeremy has not quit his work because right now, he's the only one 
that is making modern games for us.  If he wasn't here, I doubt that TRTR 
would've been made or any of the other games that are starting to come out.  
The same thing happened with Entombed.  That was the closest that I've ever 
seen an audio game come to final fantasy.  I'd like to see more like that, 
however I know that that starts to get harder because with more complex things 
you want happening, the more code you need to put in/the more time you need to 
put into the game.
Another person who has been working with this for a while is Dentin.  He's 
actually put in code for us to make Alter better and easier to play.  Not only 
does he put up with sighted people bitching at him because equipment gets 
dented or things are really hard, but he's putting up with the blind community 
complaining when mush-z doesn't work.  Hopefully most of those messages get 
sent to the right channel but who knows.
I don't know if I'll read this thread after I send this message.  But I'll 
repeat what I said at the beginning of this reply.  While we are a smaller 
community, we can not put all the blame on the blind people.  This kind of 
thing happens on a much larger scale with the sighted players.  However, if we 
keep this up pretty soon you're going to have no one left who wants to make 
games for the blind and then you all will start complaining about how you all 
have nothing that matches up with what todays consoles have.  And whose fault 
will that be but your own?  Not everyone can play todays games on the ps3 or 
Xbox360.  I know I'm having trouble with the little amount of vision that I 
have.  It's almost impossible for me to play anything new that comes out 
because the print is to small for me to read or I can't see what is on the 
screen.  I know it's way harder if not completely impossible for totals to play 
anything but fighting games which I can not stand whatsoever.  They just bore 
me 
 after about 15 minutes.  As I said, keep it up and see what happens.
Mike.
On Jun 22, 2013, at 10:00 PM, "Charles Rivard" <[email protected]> wrote:

> A thought on impatience:  Some people gripe about the length of time taken by 
> developers to come out with a new game.  Some people gripe if they don't get 
> a registration key right away.  Some people gripe about the fact that they 
> don't have enough games to play.  Strangely enough, these 3 complaints come 
> from pretty much the same few people.  These are also the same people who 
> want cheat codes very shortly after they get a new game.
> 
> Have you noticed what always seems to happen when these complainers really 
> get on a roll?
> 
> James North produced many very good games and then quit.  Why did this 
> occur??  Liam has voiced frustration, to say the least, and has openly voiced 
> a consideration of quitting.  Why?  Other producers of games have also 
> vacated the premises.  Guess why?
> 
> I commend those developers who have stuck it out and continue working for 
> those of us who do care about and respect them.  For those of us who don't, 
> and who only care about themselves and what they want, when they want it and 
> no later, what's it going to take for you to learn what you cause?  It's 
> about time you grow! up! and think about someone other than you for a change.
> 
> Yes, I'm angry, and I think I have a darned good reason to be.  Although I 
> don't create games, I care about those who do, and it just flat burns me up 
> when you drive these creators away with your selfish and downright childish 
> behavior!
> 
> 
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