but now look what's happened. it's gotten to blindcooltech. that's even more disgusting. people who don't know about superliam could download this, think, oh i love the sound of this game, and then? well i don't know if you've seen the eray gametalk mailing list that he runs but he comes on as two people, ivan fegundez and this supposed john person. what's also a bit out of the ordinary about that list is that there's no way to subscribe, otherwise i'd have done it when i first found out about this.
so he doesn't just lie about the game either. he's just a general, lowlife liar. regards, damien ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 5:31 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Dragon Warriors > Well Liam, I certainly noticed the similarity with the boss, and it did > strike me as odd that Ivan was talking about being hit by the boss's fire > when the boss clearly wasn't shooting. > > the tripping also did seem a bit weerd to me, which is why I didn't mention > it, and I did in fact notice hhim walking into an object (an extra life), to > pick it up. > > Being as you made the game in the first place, you'd certainly be the one to > know if the item placement was exactly the same, as well as about the visual > basic stuff. > > I was just trying to be fair and give Ivan the full bennifit of the doubt, > (innicent until prooven guilty), but if he has indeed done this type of > thing before, then the evidence deffinately points to some extremely fowl > play going on here. > > I'd certainly agree that completely ripping off somebody's game and passing > it off as your own is pretty disgusting, especially deliberately lying about > key presses and such in a pod cast to throw people off. > > > All the best, > > Dark. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Liam Erven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 5:04 AM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Dragon Warriors > > > > dark. it is the same game, and I'll tell you why. > > 1. the menu was the exact same. > > 2. he says he was tripping. not true. Besides, what would he have > > tripped > > over? He never said. > > 3. you get extra points for jumping over things because you will complete > > the level faster and gain more bonus points. The same is true in super > > Liam. > > 4. The boss is absolutely the same as in Super Liam with different sounds. > > 5. after playing through the demo of Super Liam to check, The placement of > > enemies is the same. > > 6. You don't have to jump on the teleporter and bonus objects, he just > > chose > > to to throw people off. > > 7. this one is purely based on judgment, but Ivan does not have the > > skills > > or know how to program a single line of code let alone a demo of a game > > that > > oddly enough sounds exactly like super Liam. > > 8. The fact that you hear his synth say syntax error followed by five > > seconds of silence is missleading when you can obviously hear him pressing > > keys during the main menu. > > 9. If using vb 6, syntax errors are displayed in diologue boxes. to add, > > syntax errors are fairly rare. > > 10. He tried a similar tactic once before, pitch shifting wild woods act 1 > > to a lower pitch and cliaming it was his own. > > > > The fact I can come up with at least ten reasons is pretty sad. It is a > > very disgusting thing to do on his part. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> > > Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 10:37 PM > > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Dragon Warriors > > > > > >>I must admit I'd not heard of this game before, but my first thought when > >>I > >> heard the demo was indeed of superliam. > >> > >> the similarities did rather strike me, even in some of the item > >> placements > >> (the health bonush in betwene two Motionless dragons on the second act > >> for > >> example). > >> > >> There also were a few differences I noticed in gameplay: > >> > >> 1: You could jump over random monsters and apparently gain score, which > >> you > >> obviously can't in superliam. > >> > >> 2: You apparently have to jump ontop of objects and teleporters in Dragon > >> warriors to pick them up. > >> > >> 3: different keys used for the health and lives. > >> > >> 4: The developer didn't seem to mention any ability to run. > >> > >> apart from these though, I will admit the game did seem incredibly > >> similar > >> to Superliam, even down to having the same bonus sound and walking sounds > >> (though as the developer said, these could just be place holders). > >> > >> If the game has indeed been modded after superliam, then I agree with you > >> Liam, though it might be a case of extreme game similarity. > >> > >> Btw, a few things in the game also mildly confused me. why do you wake up > >> and randomly decide to kill things? Where did you and the other dragons > >> get > >> lazer guns, bombs etc? and finally, who (in plot terms), is the "boss > >> dragon" and why do you want to kill him? A litle more detail in the intro > >> might be helpful methinks. > >> > >> Finally, I will say that dragons and wrap just seems an odd combination > >> to > >> youme: yo yo you: Young dragon on da streets, alwaysb gotta fight, ya > >> stickin up a town and roast a knight, ya gotta hang on, to what gold ya > >> got, > >> and betta hope a hobbit don't find ya weak spot! ;D. > >> > >> Beware the grue! (and da dragons in da hood as well), > >> > >> Dark. > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Gamers mailing list .. 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