Hi Darren.

nothing wrong with furry paws. When I was reviewing it for audiogames.net I thought it looked a highly well designed game. The only reason why it holds exactly zero interest for me is that frankly why would I want to have virtual dogs when I live with a real one who I must take care of myself. Hitting a button labeled "play" just feels flat to me as compared to going and getting a pull toy or taking Reever outside for a run, heck why would I want to get up at half past seven each morning, let Reever out, give her her breakfast and then! switch on my computer to do the same for virtual dogs?

I can appreciate the good design of the game, but the subject matter just never appeals to me the way even a pet game with random monsters like Puppet nightmares or Monster breeder would.

I think i know what you mean about accomplishment, though for me to be honest it's also a major facctor of seeing soemthing different and getting something else to do. Ce is great for rewarding you not with just doing the same thing with bigger numbers the way most games work, but with giving you new and interesting things to do that you must work to unlock. For example, I have just got into the expanse galaxy, which I've been heearing about ever since I started. For the last 18 months (or at least all the time I've been playing in the last 18 months), I've been trying to unlock the snarg, (I'm on mission 8 so I think I've about 50 crates to go).

this is likely why online rpgs interest me more than stratogy games, as well as the pvp issue, since yeah, you build some lumber yards and quarries to build your house, then guess what, you build some more lumber yards and quarries so you can have bigger numbers to build your castle and oooh, you then get to build yet more! quarries and lumber yards to build your fortress!

In Ce however, even with settlement construction you actually get different things to do at each level, for example my settlement is level 2 at the moment and I can't really do much more than research (I could add some mines to produce resources or a factory but there's not much point).

At level 3 I get to add buildings for income, have more contracts for things like extractors and get attacked by pirates! At level 4 there's adding things like universities and contracts for manufacturing centers as well as bigger versions of what I've been doing, ---- and level 6 is a new thing entirely.

This to me is largely why i play games in the first place, to see what there is to be done.

All that being said, I do think a single player stratogy like an extended castaways would be awsome since it can present you with far more in the way of random events and environmental challenges to cope with, not just minimaxing your numbers to best affect at greater and greater amounts (and at least with most online stratogy games hoping not to get creamed by someone who can minimax better than you).

Beware the grue!

Dark.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren Harris" <darren_g_har...@btinternet.com> To: "Tyler" <programmer...@comcast.net>; "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 6:21 PM
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hi,

yes i know games of this type do have a form of rinse and repete style of play to some degree. i don't mind that so much if you can make a mark and have something to show for it.

right now i'm playing furry paws. initially i completely dismissed it because of what i thought the game was. but now i've actually started playing it, you can slowly and surely make a real difference in the game and people will help you just like they would in ce. it's that feeling of accomplishment that you can get that goes way beyond what you would get from a simple scoreboard.

Sent from my iPad

On 15 Dec 2013, at 11:17, Tyler <programmer...@comcast.net> wrote:

There's also Reign, but that's more like running a country, but basically the same thing.
http://www.reign.ws
Tyler Z
On Sun, 15 Dec 2013 11:14:43 -0000, dark wrote:


Indeed Lisa, in fact you mentioning truckers reminded me of trucking sim
which can also be found on whitestick's directory.

There is then also Mississippi (though I wasn't as keen on that one, however I think this was specifically a request for information about online games.

Beware the Grue!

Dark.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa Hayes" <lhay...@internode.on.net>
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Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 11:11 AM
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and even starmule and trucker too.
Lisa Hayes




www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes

----- Original Message ----- From: "dark" <d...@xgam.org>
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Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:08 PM
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Hi.

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