Hi Dark, Wile I can certainly sympathize with your point of view I still disagree with it on principle. It isn't the responsibility of the developer, in this case Liam, to continue to make his games available regardless of how large or small the market is. Even if Super Liam was the one and only side-scroller on the market that would not make him responsible for making it available for ever just because it was one of a kind ethically or otherwise. To me this sounds a lot like the poor me blind entitlement attitude at work.
To sum up your argument as I see it you think just because there are very few games for the VI community when a developer can no longer maintain it or sell it he or she must just give it away for free. The only reason being is VI people don't have enough games to play so they are entitled to as many free games as they can get just because they are blind and underprivileged. Do you realize how selfish and self-centered that sounds to a developer like me? For one thing Liam sold that game to customers who paid for it. Therefore legally and ethically he only owes the customers, those who bought it, anything. Everyone else who didn't buy it and now want a free game aren't entitled to anything. From my point of view they are just winy beggars with an inflated poor me attitude expecting a free hand out as usual. I can't help but feel that your entire argument or point of view is based on entitlement. Liam made something so now if he doesn't want to update it, doesn't want to sell it, he has some obligation to give it away. That is his choice, and it doesn't mean this community is entitled to anything legally, ethically, or otherwise. On 9/7/14, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote: > Hi Dennis. > > You are certainly correct that Liam has ownership of the programs being > their creator, however equally given the lack of size of the audio games > community and the lack of games available, there is rather more impetus > riding on each game than in a usual development setting. > > There are less than 10 available audio 2D side scrolling games, therefore > the loss of one, especially one with the quality of sound design of > superliam is quite a major blow to over all availability. This is why in the > > past developers when no longer able to maintain support or sale for their > games made them abandonware and distributed a keygen program, and let > someone else host the finished product. justin Dobemire last year abandoned > > his games and sold a key generator, however now that those are no longer > available nobody who has not previously bought the games or the keygen will > > ever legally be able to play them. > > In many ways, it is almost more of a slap in the face to the community to > say "well nobody is ever playing these games again" > > I agree that the authority rests with Liam, however given that he is playing > > with proportionaly such a large share of the available titles for access I > do think he has some degree of responsability, or at least a duty of > considderation to his customers, and indeed to future players of the game, > > if not on a legal, at least on an ethical level. > > justin dobemire followed a similar deicsion last year. he sold a keygen for > > his games, then closed his doors forever. This means other than the people > who bought that keygen, nobody can ever legally play his games again or > install them on another machine. This has understandably annoyed lots of > people, and I don't want to see Liam making the same error. > > All the best, > > Dark. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
