try typing a paper on a touch screen for college or writing reports. it won't work and will frustrate you because typing on touch screen is slow.

On 10/25/2014 3:19 PM, shaun everiss wrote:
I agree josh, I had to do for a customer a general cleanout of windows and update and install of some major systems.
I also had to run a couple clearout programs which I did overnight.
I did not like win8, and while I was able with a bit of help get win 8.1 up, I worked through the night to get the system ready for a morning pickup,, because although I could have kept it for a wek or 2 win 8 really didn't settle with me and I wanted to get it out of the door asap! My cousin has had issues with his net and whenever that happens, and he can not log in he has no system access till he can get the networking which is why I really don't like the idea of an net account as my primary login without a fallback. that and the fact that after all the stories on us cert, about nas storage hacks, ssl3 hacks and online cloud hacks that I could be online unnecessarily. On this 7 box while I am online, I don't need to login to be online, in fact I can be offline full stop! if I do get this win8 or 10 or whatever I get next, then when I make the system go I will make sure that I turn off my router before installing for the first time.
It seems the easiest way to get round making an ms account.
i also don't like all my info just sitting there for any person to access and me not being in control. in 7 at least I can shut everything off delete all ms live files and say I don't want to be online. When I do all my payed work and other things, no drop box, no bt sync, no messenger no mail, nothing, when my nose hits that grindstone I don't want distractions at all! And that will include live tiles, its probable that I will end up with something like classic shell with win7 or xp start menu loaded and whatever classic adjustments I can get with a local account though I will be missing out on a lot of store features and metro apps its not like I hav needed them up to now, and I have used a desktop for the last 20 years this way though I can see the potentual for the newer people that start its the same with the iphone, etc, I have never used a tablet so don't know what I am missing,. and since I have inherited another phone as long as I can spend the large load of cash on talks its probably what I will end up doing though I have used a tablet once and can see why people like it. Its all what you grow up with and I am sure if i was born now, that I'd think the keyboard a bunch of crap and that I like touch, however I was round when it was all keyboards and touch devices are as forign to me as aliens and I have no need to actually use one right now, maybe that will change.

At 06:52 a.m. 26/10/2014, you wrote:
I don't or i should say I did not like windows8.1 at all when I had it on this computer, because it would not run my windows xp virtual machine at all. it ran but audio was slow and it was buggy as ever. audio was so choppy it was completely unuseable. so I went back to windows7. now everything works better. microsoft better listen to their customers or I'll switch over to ubuntu linux and run windows xp in a vm on there.

On 10/25/2014 2:58 AM, shaun everiss wrote:
well I don't think they can just stop producing 7 just like that, all the boxes we have are on 7, and while there is a market for it pc manufacturers will still release drivers till at least support for updates ends.
thats not for another 5 years.
Even if ms stops drivver library support most drivers for ms are generic ones anyway. As well as this because of the 8x disaster ms really needs to make sure that their new os works this time, right now it looks ok but there is always a chance to wreck it later. To be honest if xp didn't drop outside support I'd continue using it and now it appears they are trying to make vertuals with xp not work in 8 and up put it this way I have no desire to even think of upgrading.

At 07:24 p.m. 24/10/2014, you wrote:
Hi josh sir!
but what you will do after January?
because now microsoft will not provide drivers and other things.
The company want to end the technical support.
Thanks
Ishan

On 10/23/14, Josh k <joshknnd1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> if you are on a low income you can get laptops from newegg and from
> blaire technology group for between $200 and $300 and they are quite
> powerful and run windows7. some with windows8.1. but I've found more
> games run on win7 even today. I tried win8.1 and it froze and made my > CPU keep running at 100% even on the desktop with nothing open. so last > night I went back to windows7 professional. that's another thing if you
> want a long long support cycle with windows be sure to get the
> professional version never buy home versions.
>
> On 10/23/2014 5:08 PM, Thomas Ward wrote:
>> Hi Charles,
>>
>> True. Obviously, for people on low income etc it would be better for >> them if Microsoft continued releasing updates indefinitely, but do to
>> the costs of running a software business such a thing isn't really
>> feasible.
>>
>> Although, that is one reason I use quite a bit of open source software >> such as Linux. Cost isn't really a factor for me. I get an operating >> system, screen reader, office suite, and a bunch of other software for >> basically the cost of a download and a disc to burn it on. Therefore
>> the way I see it if someone wants to stay up to date and is on a
>> limited budget there are options other than Windows if someone is
>> willing to make the conversion to a less expensive alternative.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>>
>> On 10/23/14, Charles Rivard <wee1s...@fidnet.com> wrote:
>>> The only reason that updates aren't available is that they aren't
>>> provided.
>>>
>>> I know that the newer technology and hardware is better, but if you
>>> can't
>>> afford it due to bills, low income and other major stumbling blocks,
>>> you're
>>>
>>> stuck. If the updates were provided, for the end user anyway, problem
>>> solved.
>>>
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>>> finished,
>>>
>>> you! really! are! finished!
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