Na, I was listening (eloquence at 80%) and caught a bunch of them just fine. Its all about how much attention you pay.
-------------------------------------------------- From: "Charles Rivard" <wee1s...@fidnet.com> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 6:42 PM To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] is it really progress? - Re: end of keyboards,was Throwaway Tech If you dictate and use a spell checker, you won't retain any sills at spelling that you may have been taught. Why write or type something when you can just say it? Same with reading. Why read when someone or something can read to you? Making change rather than relying on a machine to do it for long enough, and you won't be able to do it anymore. After all, why bother? Calculators decrease math skills. Let machines do everything for us, and we won't be able to do without them, and if they break, we're sunk more quickly than a torpedoed Lone Wolf sub Marine. By the way, on purpose, I made some spelling miss steaks in this message. Some were corrected by a spell checker, some weren't, because they are legitimate words that went through with no problems. If you were doing the reading, you caught them, but if you were listening, you probably didn't. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! ----- Original Message ----- From: "dark" <d...@xgam.org> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 4:30 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] is it really progress? - Re: end of keyboards,was Throwaway Tech > Hi Charlse. > > We have had the "Braille vs screen reader" debate before and I still > disagree, if a person is listening to an audio book that is still reading > if you ask me. likewise, if a person in the future writes a book vvia > dictation that's still writing. It's content that matters. > > Is a great sheff today any the less of a sheff because they do not cut > sticks, lay a fire, use a refrigerator, need to turn a spit, use a bellows > to keep the fire going or anyth of the other things which in the past were > necessary to cook? Heck no. If they are a great sheff we judge them by > what they produce, not how they produce it. > > For me, a far greater concern is the standardization of methods of > production and disemination which could influence creativity. In the same > way as a sheff who only had access to tinned goods would not be as good a > sheff as a sheff who could put their own individual stamp on fresh > ingredience, I am concerned that kitbox creation methods and > standardization (not to mention need to appeal to an increasingly small > number of corporations which is a hole other debate), might have an > adverse affect on creativity. > > If for example the dictation software couldn't handle fantasy names, or > unusual punctuation that could be a major creative issue. > > That is why I personally believe written language and letters will > continue sinse use of letters and punctuation allows the greatest > diversity in creation, whether that's writing, coding or whatever, and > why, while I don't agree about braille, I do not like the idea of everyone > devolving into text speak sinse limitation of language also involves > limitation of thought. > > I also get concerned over tools like madlibs, rhyming dictionary programs > or synonym creators, and (to bring this back to games), if game creation > became too limited. For example if the only thing on offer was > customizations of console games based on choice, eg, creating a character > by selecting from a huge bunch of elements, rather than allowing a > platform where people could program their own games, or even create their > own elements in a scripting language. > > Whether in the future the letters are typed, brailled, written with a pen, > or selected from some sort of efficient on screen keyboard doesn't seem to > matter to me, same with programming so long as the choice still exists and > the end product can be as individualized. > > Ironically, a friend of mine who is a student of literature said people > actually thought the same of the printing press. The arguement was if > copies of a book could be instantly created by printing rather than > painstakingly copied out by hand, this made the book less valuable and > encouraged laziness on the part of the authors, as well as devaluing of > the book on the part of the reader. > > Indeed apparently some holy orders forbade religious books to be printed, > and the gutenberg Bible was actually banned in some parts of Europe. > > Beware the grue! > > Dark. > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. 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