A lot of people who use computers use the hunt and peck method because they didn't learn touch typing when they were in school. I know this for a fact, because the requirement to work at a major credit card company for which I was employed was that you had to type 20 words per minute. Some people had a hard time meeting this requirement, while I typed at about 45 words per minute. When using my iPhone's touch screen QWERTY keyboard, I am nowhere near that fast. There certainly is a difference.

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You must not know to many sighted people, because only those that don't use computers peck at the keyboard. I can do from 120 to 180 words a min and i have ran into even kids, teens and adults that can do higher than that. So looks like your very sheltered when it comes to knowing what the sighted can and can't do or you just only observe only what you want about the sighted. Kind of like selective hearing for some.

At 04:11 AM 4/1/2015, you wrote:
Hi Kara.

what I meant is that most sighted people do not naturally touch type, they look at the keyboard and push individual keys with a couple of fingers. Obviously this is not to say "all" certainly anyone who has worked in a job revolving aroun taking dictation will have the skills to do it including touch typing, it's just that your average sighted person doesn't.

This means that for a sighted person, an on screen touch screen keyboard and an actual keyboard aren't that different, and they'd use them the same way, just point and press, which is why as I said I see keyboards becoming a more specialist thing in the future, not a standard input device, but not something that will entirely be replaced by touch screens either sinse touch typing will still be the fastest way of typing an making notes.

All the best,

Dark.
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HI Dark,

You said:

most sighted people cannot actually touch type at anything like a respectable speed, they just peer at the keys and press so aren't that much slower than with a conventional keyboard

What do you mean about sighted people not being able to touch-type quickly?

Am I completely misunderstanding you here?

Thanks bunches!

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On Mar 29, 2015, at 8:38 AM, dark <[email protected]> wrote:

That is why I use dictation.

the problem however devin is most sighted people cannot actually touch type at anything like a respectable speed, they just peer at the keys and press so aren't that much slower than with a conventional keyboard.

I suspect keyboards will always be around in some form, even if just for taking notes or secretarial jobs simply because an accomplished typist will always be faster than someone using a touch screen, though as on ios, keyboard commands for actually using the operating system probably won't be around for that long.

This is why I think it's going to fall into either using a keyboard for specialist text in put, dictation or touch screen.

All the best,

Dark.
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Also, I think that if the touch screen is to be made the default input device, I think screen readers have got to step up their imagining of how a blind person would input text into the touch screen. Sure, braille input is nice, but let's face a little bitty fact, braille is slower than typing. A lot slower.

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On Mar 28, 2015, at 11:30 AM, Thomas Ward <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi Shaun,

That may be so, but we all know mainstream consumer products isn't
concerned with accessibility for blind consumers. That keyboard which
may in deed be the best access for a blind consumer is quickly and
rapidly vanishing from the consumer space and is now a optional device
rather than a mandatory one. Now days touchscreens are the primary
input device for smartphones, laptops, tablets, and several other
devices.
So don't get to attached to your keyboard because I don't see it
lasting for that much longer outside of an office environment.



On 3/28/15, shaun everiss <[email protected]> wrote:
I agree, for us blinks, the best access is a keyboard, and that means
a computer at least  for now.
as voice recognition gets better that may become another big form,
touch I am not sure about.

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