hmmm grand skeem of things friends will share books games and whatever else they like.
On 7/28/15, Charles Rivard <[email protected]> wrote: > If I am selling a game, and you get a copy of the game without paying me for > > that copy, you have stolen it from me. That's piracy. > > --- > Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, > > you! really! are! finished! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Josh K" <[email protected]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 9:20 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home > > >> how is it stealing? stealing is taking something from someone and once you >> >> take it that person no longer has or owns it. example. i take your wallet >> >> with money in it, therefore you no longer have the wallet or the money I >> have it, I stole it from you. >> now I buy a game. I get the unlock info and setup for the game. so now I >> have that info and also the developer of the game also has that same info. >> >> now I give my unlock code to you. so now you have my unlock code too. >> should you have it? no. but you do. but wait, the developer of the game >> still has his game, the source code, and the unlock code that he gave to >> me. I did not steal anything from him. the only thing i did was the >> developer lost money because i shared a game. this falls under the >> category of dishonesty not really stealing. how will we prosecute >> criminals when the day comes when lets say you have a nice car and I want >> >> that car. well stealing is a thing of the past I pull out my duplicator >> gun, point it at the car hit a button and voila! I have an exact working >> copy of your vehicle built atom by atom. and I even have your keys! oh but >> >> wait you still have your own car and your own keys. I should have paid for >> >> the car most that happened was the car dealer lost out on getting my money >> >> for something i should have baught rather than coppied. same thing happens >> >> if i borrow a book from a friend, read it, and i like it. technically i >> should have gone out and baught the book for myself so the author lost >> money because my friend shared his book with me. stealing is taking >> something so the original owner no longer has that thing. its stolen. this >> >> is not stealing its well copying. I think culturally we have to change our >> >> terms. pirates, they steal. that is pirates who loot ships and stuff they >> >> steal. but could we really call them pirates if they board your ship and >> duplicate the stuff they want put the copies on their ship and go off? no >> >> you still have the originals. and if that day comes even money will no >> longer have value. in fact if you can just copy everything then nothing >> has value because everything can be coppied. so we would then have to >> completely rethink our whole entire world economic system. and this could >> >> go on forever so I'll stop here. >> >> follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 >> >> On 7/28/2015 8:46 PM, Charles Rivard wrote: >>> I would not pirate, because that is stealing. Period. >>> >>> --- >>> Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're >>> finished, you! really! are! finished! >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Devin Prater" >>> <[email protected]> >>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 6:24 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Q9 Has a New Home >>> >>> >>>> I'm willing to bet that some cool hacker will make an add-on for NVDA to >>>> >>>> interface with that Jaws-fetish software that I can't spell. Then buying >>>> >>>> the thing wouldn't exactly be all that wasteful, although I'd rather >>>> pirate it to try it out for 30 minutes or so just to see how >>>> mind-numbingly restrictive and basic it is, than buy it, then throw it >>>> away. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Jul 28, 2015, at 4:41 PM, Thomas Ward <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Dark, >>>>> >>>>> Agreed. I wouldn't blame anyone for pirating the game in secret, and >>>>> no I can't feel sorry or any sympathy for Brian Hartgen if that >>>>> happens because its his own fault. Someone who clearly refuses to sell >>>>> single end user licenses to include it in a more expensive product, >>>>> something many people don't need, is just begging for disreputable >>>>> people to rip it off as fast as possible. Although, I don't personally >>>>> know of any such instances I wouldn't be surprised if this has not >>>>> already happened. People won't buy Leasey just to acquire a game that >>>>> use to sell for a fraction of the price. If they can they'll pirate it >>>>> instead, and that is a fact. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 7/28/15, dark <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> Well Tom It's a great shame Philip couldn't sell his game to a more >>>>>> deserving party, not that I blaime him for this Brian fellow's >>>>>> stupidity, a >>>>>> >>>>>> very blind man indeed if he can't realize what he's got :D. >>>>>> >>>>>> If this is truly the case I would not be sorry for someone to pirate >>>>>> the >>>>>> game as has already happened with the Bsc titles just to keep it in >>>>>> the >>>>>> community, ---- oh and no, I don't know about any pirated copies of >>>>>> the bsc >>>>>> >>>>>> games hanging aaround, such a thing is just a supposition by me. >>>>>> >>>>>> Beware the grue! >>>>>> >>>>>> Dark. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] >>>>>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>>>>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>>>>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. >>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >>>>>> >>>>>> list, >>>>>> please send E-mail to [email protected]. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] >>>>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>>>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>>>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. >>>>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >>>>> list, >>>>> please send E-mail to [email protected]. >>>> >>>> --- >>>> Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] >>>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. >>>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >>>> list, >>>> please send E-mail to [email protected]. >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> No virus found in this message. >>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>> Version: 2015.0.6081 / Virus Database: 4392/10325 - Release Date: >>>> 07/28/15 >>>> >>> >>> >>> --- >>> Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] >>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>> [email protected]. >>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. >>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >>> list, >>> please send E-mail to [email protected]. >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> [email protected]. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to [email protected]. >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2015.0.6081 / Virus Database: 4392/10329 - Release Date: >> 07/29/15 >> > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > [email protected]. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to [email protected]. > -- Lenron Brown Cell: 985-271-2832 Skype: ron.brown762 --- Gamers mailing list __ [email protected] If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to [email protected]. 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