yes good argument lets keep it at that otherwise this could start
something bad on list that I don't want started. if you want to share q9
do it in private i think.
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On 7/28/2015 11:03 PM, Thomas Ward wrote:
Hi Josh,
The problem with your argument is this. Regardless if you take
something physical or not if you take something that belongs to a
person be it an idea, song, a story, or a piece of software it is
still considered steeling because according to the law you have an
obligation to pay for it. If someone takes something without paying
for it that is by definition steeling. In a case such as this a person
hasn't actually stolen the game or software itself, but have stolen
the opportunity to sell the software. Therefore that developer loses
out on the amount of money he or she was owed which effectively is the
same as taking it out of his or her wallet. In both cases the
developer does not have the money to spend because he/she never was
given the money for that use of the software.
On 7/28/15, Josh K <[email protected]> wrote:
how is it stealing? stealing is taking something from someone and once
you take it that person no longer has or owns it. example. i take your
wallet with money in it, therefore you no longer have the wallet or the
money I have it, I stole it from you.
now I buy a game. I get the unlock info and setup for the game. so now I
have that info and also the developer of the game also has that same
info. now I give my unlock code to you. so now you have my unlock code
too. should you have it? no. but you do. but wait, the developer of the
game still has his game, the source code, and the unlock code that he
gave to me. I did not steal anything from him. the only thing i did was
the developer lost money because i shared a game. this falls under the
category of dishonesty not really stealing. how will we prosecute
criminals when the day comes when lets say you have a nice car and I
want that car. well stealing is a thing of the past I pull out my
duplicator gun, point it at the car hit a button and voila! I have an
exact working copy of your vehicle built atom by atom. and I even have
your keys! oh but wait you still have your own car and your own keys. I
should have paid for the car most that happened was the car dealer lost
out on getting my money for something i should have baught rather than
coppied. same thing happens if i borrow a book from a friend, read it,
and i like it. technically i should have gone out and baught the book
for myself so the author lost money because my friend shared his book
with me. stealing is taking something so the original owner no longer
has that thing. its stolen. this is not stealing its well copying. I
think culturally we have to change our terms. pirates, they steal. that
is pirates who loot ships and stuff they steal. but could we really call
them pirates if they board your ship and duplicate the stuff they want
put the copies on their ship and go off? no you still have the
originals. and if that day comes even money will no longer have value.
in fact if you can just copy everything then nothing has value because
everything can be coppied. so we would then have to completely rethink
our whole entire world economic system. and this could go on forever so
I'll stop here.
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