Strange how this subject got from not having enough income to buy games, 
isn't it?

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Isn't it interesting that the same people who laugh at science fiction 
listen to weather forecasts and economists?

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From: "Shadow Dragon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] not necessarily true - Re: Fw: piracy of games?


> Of course there are always going to be security issues. There are security
> issues everywhere. But there's no reason to get paranoid about it. If you
> use a program like paypal, there's no way to see your credit card info 
> once
> you've entered it. No way at all. If you give your number directly yes, 
> then
> it could possibly become a security issue, but if a giant corperation like
> paypal were hacked, they'd lose tons of business and likely get sued. 
> That's
> why they offer businesses like that. I mean sure it isn't flawless, but if
> you're paranoid, instead of cracking things or setting up credit card 
> after
> credit card, it seems to me that it'd make more sense to take the easy way
> out. Then again, what do I know, I can't even think straight I'm so tired.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "shaun everiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 7:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] not necessarily true - Re: Fw: piracy of games?
>
>
>> Ok let me get one thing straight.
>> There are and will be security holes.
>> Yeah the bad people are always trying to get ahead of the goodies and
>> often do.
>> Do not let that scare you, if you do than the badguys have achieved
>> their goal to some what make you go away.
>> At 11:34 a.m. 3/07/2007, you wrote:
>>
>>>I know, that game devs wont use that info against us. Now if I took
>>>the time to actually learn a programming language, I am starting easy
>>>and trying to make  simple things with autoit, so I can build up, and
>>>then create some games. I wont even bother to secure them. Just type
>>>in some random letters in a generated email or something. But, I know
>>>game devs wont use that info. But if anyone here listtens to security
>>>now which is at grc.com/seciritynow, you will know that there are
>>>quite a lot of exploits in SQL databases, etc. And the fact that Liam
>>>makes everyone type in their names and email addresses makes me even
>>>more nervous. So? You wont give it away, I trust you liam. But,
>>>hackers anyone? Ever heard of them? Anyone know what they do, ever
>>>thought of them? Well probably not; I got this rediculious spam book
>>>that showed how to break into databses and stuff. I wont do it of
>>>course, but it is amazingly easy to break a script and get to the
>>>underlying info. Reaking havoc with people's information is not good
>>>at all. If you dont believe that any server, any server even paypal is
>>>at risk. I probably sound paranoid and I wouldn't blame you for
>>>thinking that, but it makes somee feel nervous. If you have a firewall
>>>antivirus, nope; no good on web pages. Think your secure if you've got
>>>the latest windows patches? Nooooo. Microsoft has  failed to release
>>>patches to hundreds of things. And now we're drifting  off topic with
>>>windows security. While I agree with everyone here, that paying for a
>>>game is of utmost importance, and I honestly would pay for a game, I
>>>really would, but you really dont know what's under the hood.
>>>Think about that, the next time you pay for a game. And if you think
>>>your safe if you've got that padlock icon and the https://blabla.bla?
>>>Well, not really.
>>>
>>>So think about that the next time, you do online shopping. I even
>>>heard of awful stories of people's stuff getting robbed and stolen.
>>>And no matter how much security is in place, there is always a way.
>>>Thats the only reason for my cracking stuff. And surely others as
>>>well. Also go to twit.tv if you dont believe my blabbing. Its not
>>>really blabbing though. But still if you still think that you are
>>>safe. Well. One day itll happen. Im sure of it.
>>>
>>>On 7/2/07, Charles Rivard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> > Some people live on very small incomes, and they find it very 
>>> > difficult
>>> > to
>>> > even save a few dollars every month.  So to say that anyone can afford
>>> > $30
>>> > to $40 is sometimes not true.  I know.  I've been there.  I was living
>>> > on a
>>> > monthly income of $700, $375 of which went toward rent.  Then there
>>> > were
>>> > electric bills, phone bills, Internet bills, water bills, gas bills,
>>> > groceries including dog food for my guide, the occasional vet bill for
>>> > the
>>> > guide, and an occasional unexpected expense or so.  After all that,
>>> > every
>>> > stinking month, guess how many games I was buying??  Absolutely zero!,
>>> > --
>>> > Isn't it interesting that the same people who laugh at science fiction
>>> > listen to weather forecasts and economists?
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: "Josh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" <[email protected]>
>>> > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 2:07 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Fw: piracy of games?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > > no it doesn't. Especially when paying for a $30 or $40 game. Anyone
>>> > > can
>>> > > afford $30 or $40 and if they can't then I'm sure someone else could
>>> > > buy
>>> > > it
>>> > > for them.
>>> > >
>>> > > Josh
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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